Talk:Travel Radar

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explanation

I reverted this series of changes, by User:Cumulusclouds.

In this edit summary they asserted "Fixed page that had been hijacked by Ali Bayat. Travel Radar Media Ltd. is the proper brand and registered trademark here"

I don't really understand that assertion.

I don't know what is going on. For all any of of the rest of know there are two different organizations, each named "Travel Radar". I do know contributor User:Olife was here first, so I am going to give his or her version pride of place, unless Cumulusclouds offers stronger arguments. Geo Swan (talk) 03:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

RE: Geo Swan Reversion

I have undone your revisions to this page.

'Travel Radar'is a trademarked term registered with the United Kingdom Intellectual Property Office: https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003579704 belonging to the organisation I corrected the page to.

Travelradar.com is a web domain infringing on that trademark, and not offering any legitimate services to users. The company is not registered, nor have any employees. It is an example of domain ransom, trying to force the trademark owners to pay a significant sum to release the domain to them and for the infringer to profit from this act.

This brand would be better suited to be under a new seperate page 'Travelradar.com'if they wish to maintain a business page on WikiAlpha, however for the sake of copyright and trademark respect, this main page should remain reflective of the correct brand.

--Cumulusclouds (talk) 14:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Undone Changes

• The original article was unreferenced. Your revised version is also unreferenced.

• the ipo.gov.uk page you linked to [1] describes Travel Radar Media Ltd. Why shouldn't your page be at Travel Radar Media Ltd.? Geo Swan (talk) 23:15, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

RE: Second Reversion by User Geo Swan

Geo Swan, you seem to misunderstand how trademarks work. The trademark cited is for a wordmark containing just the sole words "Travel Radar".

Similar to Coca Cola - their company name is "The Coca Cola Company" but their trademark is "Coca Cola". See https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00001133690 as an example.

Unless the third party can prove rights to the phrase, my reversion stands on copyright grounds. Any subsequent reversions will lead to a trademark claim being raised. I suggest you leave yourself out of legal disputes where you fail to understand trademark.

--Cumulusclouds (talk) 14:42, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

• The URL you offer, isn't it only applicable in the UK?

• Your edit summary, in this edit, was "Fixed page that had been hijacked by Ali Bayat. Travel Radar Media Ltd. is the proper brand and registered trademark here". This is both bold, and uncivil. Why should any of us take your unsupported attack on the previous contributor at face value?

• I am an administrator here. I try to figure out who is complying with the rules. So, please don't tell me to mind my own business. Geo Swan (talk) 19:33, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

• User:Cumulusclouds, I reverted to the original - and put the page under protection for a week.

Please try harder to be polite.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, Travel Radar is a registered trademark, in the UK? How would any of us know that Ali Bayat hadn't registered Travel Radar as a trademark, in the USA, or India? Why should your favourite version get pride of place, when User:Olife was here first?

Suppose you went to a UK trademark enforcement court, what makes you think they would agree that they had jurisdiction over wikialpha, which is not based in the UK? Geo Swan (talk) 19:45, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

RE: Geo Swan - References for a Different Brand

Both references cited in this article are for Jet Radar not a 'Travel Radar'. Geo Swan has inserted fake and misleading references to validate his argument in this article as an abusive Wiki Alpha administrator. Undermines the legitimacy of this site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cumulusclouds (talk • contribs) 2023-07-29T12:40:01‎

• I asked you to try harder to be polite.

• I inserted nothing, merely rolled back all your edits. Geo Swan (talk) 01:43, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
  • I left a note on User talk:Cumulusclouds#I encourage you to try harder to be polite. Geo Swan (talk) 02:16, 30 July 2023 (UTC)