Talk:Wikipedia's Treatment of WikiAlpha

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Let me make this clear to those of you still in doubt:
1. WikiAlpha is not Wikipedia and does not adhere to Wikipedia's NPOV policy.
2. Richard and I own this site and may publish whatever material we wish.

If anyone finds this too difficult to comprehend then please spare us the trouble and leave. Govind (talk) 03:59, 11 July 2011 (MSD)

Let me see if I understand this. WikiAlpha is like an old-time junkyard, a place where stuff that others have discarded can be collected, and perhaps recycled. They will say that the site is full of "junk." I'm sure. But one man's junk is another man's treasure, is the old saying. "Junkyard namespace" was proposed years ago, as an alternative to deletion. They host the content anyway, so why not reserve true deletion for illegal content, junkyard space could be no-follow to address the "web hosting" problem, etc., etc., but Wikipedia was never big on sensible, conflict-reducing solutions. Too many there love the drama and conflict, they love "winning" and beating down those "fans," smashing the "fancruft," etc. So along comes WikiAlpha to do what Wikipedia should have done a long time ago.
Eat their lunch. Good luck, you may need it, the problem is sustaining interest in projects like this. You'll need to automate it, much of it, to survive, unless you get a very large user base, and I don't think that's likely. --Abd (talk) 18:19, 11 July 2011 (MSD)


I love these demonstrations of wikipediocy. You guys came off looking like the soul of reason, with Ironholds and certain others demonstrating their state very well. As a result of notice of the ANI discussion, noticed on Wikipedia Review, I've registered and may be able to help out a little. My entire user space, including evidence that had been submitted to ArbComm, studies of various incidents, mediations, etc., was MfD'd. I have the files, of course, but are you interested in other than article space deleted material? I have other options for hosting, but ... do you want this?

What this project will take is persistence, there have been other efforts, such as deletionpedia. Userbase, userbase, userbase. Good luck. --Abd (talk) 18:01, 11 July 2011 (MSD)

Sure, why not. Govind (talk) 20:35, 11 July 2011 (MSD)

Check this out

Tarc can't seem to drop his ranting about wikialpha. Mathewignash (talk) 03:44, 13 July 2011 (MSD)

I'm flattered. We seem to have deeply affected him. Govind (talk) 10:30, 16 July 2011 (MSD)

A couple more threads

There's another thread at ANI and one at VPP for those who are interested. Web (talk) 13:09, 18 July 2011 (MSD)

And one more at Jimbo's talk page. Web (talk) 13:19, 18 July 2011 (MSD)


I'd like to suggest that the specific conversations copied from Wikipedia be boxed so that people understand they are duplicates of Wikipedia conversations. Perhaps something like this.

Note: This is a duplicate of a conversation from Wikipedia that originally appeared here

  • Hello. blah blah blah. ExampleUser (talk) 10:00, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

    Well I respond by saying blah blah blah. SecondUser (talk) 10:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

This can be done by adding <ul><li><div style="background-color:#F8F8F8; border:solid thin black; padding:.5em"> at the top of the discussion and </div></li></ul> at the bottom.

This is to help people from being confused as to whether a conversation is here or from another site. Thanks. Web (talk) 15:15, 7 June 2012 (MSD)

  • I was confused, so I 2nd this suggestion. Geo Swan (talk) 17:25, 7 June 2012 (MSD)