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<div>{{Infobox book<br />
| name = ''Galvatron's Air Attack''<br />
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| image = [[image:galvatronsairattack-cover.jpg|240px]]<br />
| image_caption = Cover of Galvatron's Air Attack<br />
| author = [[John Grant (children's author)|John Grant]]<br />
| illustrator = [[Richard Dunn (illustrator)|Richard Dunn]]<br />
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| country =<br />
| language = English<br />
| series = [[Transformers]]<br />
| subject =<br />
| genre = [[Science fiction]]<br />
| publisher = [[Ladybird Books]]<br />
| pub_date = 1986<br />
| english_pub_date =<br />
| media_type = Print ([[Hardcover]])<br />
| pages = 48<br />
| isbn = 0-7214-0988-1<br />
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| dewey =<br />
| congress =<br />
| preceded_by = [[Laserbeak's Fury]] <br />
| followed_by = [[Decepticon Hideout]]<br />
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'''''Galvatron's Air Attack''''' is a children's book with optional companion audio cassette. It was written by John Grant and illustrated by Richard Dunn. It was published in 1986.<ref>{{cite book|last=Grant|first=John|isbn=0-7214-0988-1|title=Galvatron's Air Attack|publisher=Ladybird Books|year=1986}}</ref><br />
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==Synopsis==<br />
With the Autobots running low on supplies of the Cybertronian metals they need for repairs, [[Kup]] suggests visiting the scene of an old battle between them and the Deceptions to see if anything was left behind. However the search is halted by an ambush by the [[Seekers (Transformers)|Decepticon planes]]. Worried about how [[Galvatron]] knew where they were, [[Ultra Magnus]] sends out first the [[Aerialbots]] then [[Cosmos (Transformers)|Cosmos]], discovering the Decepticons have three shielded satellites which can monitor the whole of the Earth's surface. The Autobots use artificial [[Aurora (astronomy)|Northern lights]] to cut out communications then send a fake message that causes the three satellites, unable to see each other, to collide, destroying them. The Autobots then salvage the metals they need from the wreckage.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
*For the second series of two books, an extra paragraph was added to the prologue explaining how Galvatron had travelled back from the 21st century to take over from Megatron as Decepticon commander and following the "strange disappearance" of [[Optimus Prime]] Ultra Magnus had arrived from Cybertron as the Autobots' new leader. This does not match any scenario in the comic or animated series continuities.<br />
*In addition to the "New Leaders", these books brought in several of the other newer characters such as the [[Transformers Technology#Combiner Technology|Special Teams]].<br />
*[[Blitzwing]] is referred to as commanding one of the Decepticon stations. There is nothing to indicate he survived its destruction.<br />
*Other Transformers featured in the novel are [[Starscream (Generation 1)|Starscream]], [[Soundwave (Generation 1)|Soundwave]], [[Thrust (Transformers)|Thrust]], [[Dirge (Transformers)|Dirge]], [[Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (Transformers)|Scourge]], [[Rodimus|Hot Rod]], [[Ratchet (Transformers)|Ratchet]], [[Wheeljack]], [[Grapple (Transformers)|Grapple]], [[Hoist (Transformers)|Hoist]], [[Huffer (Transformers)|Huffer]] and [[Swerve (Transformers)|Swerve]].<br />
*One of the illustrations depicts [[Ramjet (Transformers)|Ramjet]] flying alongside Starscream, Thrust and Dirge. Since the accompanying text refers to the Aerialbots, this is probably a mistake.<br />
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==References==<br />
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==External links==<br />
*http://www.green-ranger.com/stuff/ladybird/05-airattack/<br />
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMD9fsjR7YI Galvatron's Air Attack on Youtube]<br />
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<div>'''Andromeda''' is a girl character from the [[Transformers]] show.<br />
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==History==<br />
===Fun Publications===<br />
Andromeda is a member of the [[Axiom Nexus]] News Team, often at odds with her coworker [[Rook (Transformers)|Rook]].<br />
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<div>'''Volcanicon''' is a character featured in the [[Transformers]] show.<br />
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==History==<br />
===Combiner===<br />
Volcanicon has not been featured in any Transformers animation or comics, but was given some history in the "[[Ask Vector Prime]]" series as a native of the planet Dinosaur which was destroyed by unknown forces. Seeking vengeance, Volcanicon and his twin brother [[Obsidian (Transformers)#Combiner|Obsidian]] pledged themselves to the service of [[Violenjiger|Bio Ranger Iga]]; Volcanicon was named the Transwarp Pandemic General. <ref>https://www.facebook.com/AskVectorPrime/posts/678083175656989</ref><br />
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===Toys===<br />
*'''''Kre-O'' Volcanicon'''<br />
:A four piece Kre-O Combiner consisting of '''Farside, Liftoff, Lugmutt''', and '''Power Surge.'''<br />
==References==<br />
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<div>The '''Action Master''' is a type of [[Transformers]] character; the toys are notable for featuring nontransforming characters with smaller companions capable of transforming.<br />
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==History==<br />
===Generation No. 1===<br />
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==Known Action Masters==<br />
===Autobots===<br />
*[[Blaster (Transformers)|Blaster]]<br />
*[[Bumblebee (Transformers)|Bumblebee]]<br />
*[[Circuit (Transformers)|Circuit]]<br />
*[[Grimlock]]<br />
*[[Inferno (Transformers)|Inferno]]<br />
*[[Jackpot (Transformers)|Jackpot]] with [[Sights (Transformers)|Sights]]<br />
*[[Jazz (Transformers)|Jazz]] with [[Turbo Board]]<br />
*[[Kick-Off]]<br />
*[[Mainframe (Transformers)|Mainframe]] with [[Push-Button]]<br />
*[[Omega Spreem]]<br />
*[[Optimus Prime (Generation 1)|Optimus Prime]]<br />
*[[Over-Run|Overrun]]<br />
*[[Powerflash]] with [[Road Rocket]]<br />
*[[Rumbler (Transformers)|Rumbler]]<br />
*[[Sideswipe (Transformers)|Sideswipe]] with [[Vanguard (Transformers)|Vanguard]]<br />
*[[Tracks (Transformers)|Tracks]] with [[Basher]]<br />
*[[Wheeljack]]<br />
*[[Windmill (Transformers)|Windmill]]<br />
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===Decepticons===<br />
*[[Axer]]<br />
*[[Banzai-Tron]] with [[Razor-Sharp]]<br />
*[[Bombshell (Transformers)|Bombshell]] with [[Needler]]<br />
*[[Charger (Transformers)|Charger]] with [[Fire Beast]]<br />
*[[Devastator (Transformers)|Devastator]] with [[Scorpulator]]<br />
*[[Gutcruncher]]<br />
*[[Krok]] with [[Gatoraider]]<br />
*[[Megatron (Generation 1)|Megatron]]<br />
*[[Shockwave (Transformers)|Shockwave]] with [[Fistfight (Transformers)|Fistfight]]<br />
*[[Slicer (Transformers)|Slicer]]<br />
*[[Soundwave (Generation 1)|Soundwave]] with [[Wingthing]]<br />
*[[Starscream (Generation 1)|Starscream]]<br />
*[[Take-Off]] with [[Screech (Transformers)|Screech]]<br />
*[[Thundercracker]]<br />
*[[Treadshot]] with [[Catgut]]<br />
*[[Turbo Master]]<br />
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<div>The '''Action Master''' is a type of [[Transformers]] character; the toys are notable for featuring nontransforming characters with smaller companions capable of transforming.<br />
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==History==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
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==Known Action Masters==<br />
===Autobots===<br />
*[[Blaster (Transformers)|Blaster]]<br />
*[[Bumblebee (Transformers)|Bumblebee]]<br />
*[[Circuit (Transformers)|Circuit]]<br />
*[[Grimlock]]<br />
*[[Inferno (Transformers)|Inferno]]<br />
*[[Jackpot (Transformers)|Jackpot]] with [[Sights (Transformers)|Sights]]<br />
*[[Jazz (Transformers)|Jazz]] with [[Turbo Board]]<br />
*[[Kick-Off]]<br />
*[[Mainframe (Transformers)|Mainframe]] with [[Push-Button]]<br />
*[[Omega Spreem]]<br />
*[[Optimus Prime (Generation 1)|Optimus Prime]]<br />
*[[Over-Run|Overrun]]<br />
*[[Powerflash]] with [[Road Rocket]]<br />
*[[Rumbler (Transformers)|Rumbler]]<br />
*[[Sideswipe (Transformers)|Sideswipe]] with [[Vanguard (Transformers)|Vanguard]]<br />
*[[Tracks (Transformers)|Tracks]] with [[Basher]]<br />
*[[Wheeljack]]<br />
*[[Windmill (Transformers)|Windmill]]<br />
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===Decepticons===<br />
*[[Axer]]<br />
*[[Banzai-Tron]] with [[Razor-Sharp]]<br />
*[[Bombshell (Transformers)|Bombshell]] with [[Needler]]<br />
*[[Charger (Transformers)|Charger]] with [[Fire Beast]]<br />
*[[Devastator (Transformers)|Devastator]] with [[Scorpulator]]<br />
*[[Gutcruncher]]<br />
*[[Krok]] with [[Gatoraider]]<br />
*[[Megatron (Generation 1)|Megatron]]<br />
*[[Shockwave (Transformers)|Shockwave]] with [[Fistfight (Transformers)|Fistfight]]<br />
*[[Slicer (Transformers)|Slicer]]<br />
*[[Soundwave (Generation 1)|Soundwave]] with [[Wingthing]]<br />
*[[Starscream (Generation 1)|Starscream]]<br />
*[[Take-Off]] with [[Screech (Transformers)|Screech]]<br />
*[[Thundercracker]]<br />
*[[Treadshot]] with [[Catgut]]<br />
*[[Turbo Master]]<br />
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[[Category:Transformers characters]]</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Action_Masters&diff=188964Action Masters2017-07-03T06:24:19Z<p>CityOfSilver: CityOfSilver moved page Action Masters to Action Master over redirect: 1 BYTE REMOVED</p>
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The '''Action Masters''' are a type of [[Transformers]] character; the toys are notable for featuring nontransforming characters with smaller companions capable of transforming.<br />
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==History==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
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==Known Action Masters==<br />
===Autobots===<br />
*[[Blaster (Transformers)|Blaster]]<br />
*[[Bumblebee (Transformers)|Bumblebee]]<br />
*[[Circuit (Transformers)|Circuit]]<br />
*[[Grimlock]]<br />
*[[Inferno (Transformers)|Inferno]]<br />
*[[Jackpot (Transformers)|Jackpot]] with [[Sights (Transformers)|Sights]]<br />
*[[Jazz (Transformers)|Jazz]] with [[Turbo Board]]<br />
*[[Kick-Off]]<br />
*[[Mainframe (Transformers)|Mainframe]] with [[Push-Button]]<br />
*[[Omega Spreem]]<br />
*[[Optimus Prime (Generation 1)|Optimus Prime]]<br />
*[[Over-Run|Overrun]]<br />
*[[Powerflash]] with [[Road Rocket]]<br />
*[[Rumbler (Transformers)|Rumbler]]<br />
*[[Sideswipe (Transformers)|Sideswipe]] with [[Vanguard (Transformers)|Vanguard]]<br />
*[[Tracks (Transformers)|Tracks]] with [[Basher]]<br />
*[[Wheeljack]]<br />
*[[Windmill (Transformers)|Windmill]]<br />
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===Decepticons===<br />
*[[Axer]]<br />
*[[Banzai-Tron]] with [[Razor-Sharp]]<br />
*[[Bombshell (Transformers)|Bombshell]] with [[Needler]]<br />
*[[Charger (Transformers)|Charger]] with [[Fire Beast]]<br />
*[[Devastator (Transformers)|Devastator]] with [[Scorpulator]]<br />
*[[Gutcruncher]]<br />
*[[Krok]] with [[Gatoraider]]<br />
*[[Megatron (Generation 1)|Megatron]]<br />
*[[Shockwave (Transformers)|Shockwave]] with [[Fistfight (Transformers)|Fistfight]]<br />
*[[Slicer (Transformers)|Slicer]]<br />
*[[Soundwave (Generation 1)|Soundwave]] with [[Wingthing]]<br />
*[[Starscream (Generation 1)|Starscream]]<br />
*[[Take-Off]] with [[Screech (Transformers)|Screech]]<br />
*[[Thundercracker]]<br />
*[[Treadshot]] with [[Catgut]]<br />
*[[Turbo Master]]<br />
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'''Basher''' is the [[Action Master]] partner of [[Tracks (Transformers)|Tracks]].<br />
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==Timeline of History==<br />
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===Toys===<br />
*'''Tracks with Basher''' (1991)<br />
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[[Category:Autobots]]</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Mercatorprojection&diff=188961User talk:Mercatorprojection2017-07-03T06:21:28Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>==About Me==<br />
I am known as Solusprime19 on TFW2005.<br />
I read, write and occasionally collect.<br />
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==My Story==<br />
My story is a large ongoing continuity with a wide range of characters, combining elements from several universes, mainly Beast Wars and the Unicron Trilogy. Elements from Robots In Disguise are also used, as well as other universes.<br />
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==Welcome==<br />
Welcome to Wikialpha. Are you going to be copying a lot of articles from Wikipedia? I can help you learn how to copy the images tonight after I get home from work. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 16:51, 15 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Yes I should be starting soon. I already tried a test article to see how it works. Its going well, but I ''really'' need to know how to add pictures. Is it the same as Wikipedia, or is it unique? Thanks! [[User:Mercatorprojection|Mercatorprojection]] ([[User talk:Mercatorprojection|talk]]) 16:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Yes same. You just need to tag them, but we have a simple template asking you to describe what the picture is and where you are using it. Check out one of my pictues and copy the template. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 17:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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I put the first Sledge picture in there for you to copy. I also moved the page to "Sledge (Transformers)" to keep the name of the article the same as on Wikipedia, and added a small note to the top of the page saying the article was based on one from wikipedia, we have to do that for legal reasons. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 17:09, 15 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks. just put in another picture from Wikipedia. how does it look? [[User:Mercatorprojection|Mercatorprojection]] ([[User talk:Mercatorprojection|talk]]) 17:38, 15 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Pretty good, but missing the licensing info. Check out how it is now, I added the licensing. Can you add that too in the future? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 22:45, 15 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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''Wow''. It seems like as soon as I post the article it gets scheduled for deletion. Weird, isn't it?[[User:Mercatorprojection|Mercatorprojection]] ([[User talk:Mercatorprojection|talk]]) 14:10, 18 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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One of the deletionists on Wikipedia used to stalk me, and nominate any TF article for deletion whenever I edited it. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 02:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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You know we have a "save article" function that copies over articles from Wikipedia for you? [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Special:SaveArticle LOOK HERE] [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 02:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Fanfiction==<br />
Yes, you can write a summry of fanfiction here. Heck, as long as the author is okay with it, post the fiction itself in the article! [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 12:53, 12 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Why are you writing a summary that I want to have? '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:21, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Mathewignash&diff=188960User:Mathewignash2017-07-03T06:20:48Z<p>CityOfSilver: GtczxvdgdfsdgbcdsHLBHFDasufksdfjln Ozxcjkl <a href=http://fxfskrddfbxdf.com>Maefegvtjy</a> dfdfdfdsdgd FGxczDHXfgvdhjhjhjhsdadddfxgbnbm</p>
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<div>GtczxvdgdfsdgbcdsHLBHFDasufksdfjln Ozxcjkl <a href=http://fxfskrddfbxdf.com>Maefegvtjy</a> dfdfdfdsdgd FGxczDHXfgvdhjhjhjhsdadddfxgbnbm</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Wingwaver&diff=188959Wingwaver2017-07-03T06:19:59Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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'''Wingwaver''' is an [[Autobot]] [[Combiner (Transformers)|combiner]] featured in ''[[Transformers: Victory]]'' as the combined form of [[Wing (Transformers)|Wing]] and [[Waver (Transformers)|Waver]] of [[Multiforce]].<br />
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==Generation No. 1==<br />
===Animated series===<br />
The leader of Multiforce, Wingwaver was depicted as a high-ranking member of [[Star Saber]]'s Autobots, rarely appearing as his separate components. On at least one occasion he was known to dislike his comrade [[Blacker (Transformers)|Blacker]], who he felt regarded him as an inexperienced child.<br />
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[[image:multiforce.jpg|left|thumb|The Multiforce - Machtackle, Dashtacker and Wingwaver - aid humans during a flood]]<br />
In episode #23, "Fight to the Death!! Antarctic Battle", the Breast Force drains energy from the [[Antarctic]], melting the polar ice. The Multiforce aid people trapped in a flood in [[South America]] when Star Saber orders them to meet him at a [[United Nations]] research base in the Antarctic. Wing and Mach arrive first and are confronted by Liokaiser. Waver tows in the rest of Multiforce by sea and despite forming Landcross they are outclassed by Liokaiser’s ability to turn invisible. Star Saber and Galaxy Shuttle arrive to help in the fight as Jan, Stakeout and Seawatch help evacuate the human scientists from the U.N. base. Liokaiser continues to best the Autobots in battle thanks to his ability to turn invisible, but as the Decepticon gestalt is about to finish off Victory Saber, Deathsaurus steps in and insists that he have a hand in the demise of his enemy. Star Saber takes the opportunity to take the battle to the air, matching Deathsaurus’ deadly wings with his skill. Galaxy Shuttle takes out the Decepticon energy collector with an energy blast and the Decepticons retreat in the Thunder Arrow. The humans scientists thank the Autobots for their help.<ref>{{Cite episode |title= Fight to the Death!! Antarctic Battle |episodelink= |series=Transformers: Victory |serieslink=Transformers: Victory |credits= Written by [[Hajime Suzuki]] |network= |station= |airdate=September 5th, 1989 |season= 1|number= 23}}</ref><br />
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[[Category:Autobots]]<br />
[[Category:Combined forms]]<br />
[[Category:Multiforce]]</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:OptimusMagnus&diff=188958User talk:OptimusMagnus2017-07-03T06:19:07Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>==Dawn of the Predacus==<br />
Hello, thanks for making some edits to the wiki. I thought I should point out though that ''Dawn of the Predacus'' was written and Published by IDW, not Fun Pub. Hasbro took it the comic away from Fub Pub this year and let IDW take over. I have the comic, and it's published by them, and written by IDW writer John-Paul Bove. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 23:32, 21 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==Combiner Wars Landcross==<br />
My own idea for a Combiner Wars Road Ceaser would be to keep the original 3 members as limbs, then add a remold of Silverbolt as Starsaber for the torso, and a remold of Takara Blast Off as Galaxy Shuttle. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 22:05, 28 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Do you mean [[Road Caesar]], or were you referring to the fact that Landcross' components were usually combined as [[Wingwaver]], [[Machtackle]], and [[Dashtacker]] in ''Victory?'' Either way it's an interesting idea; the only reason I omitted Galaxy Shuttle was because I prefer keeping him as a bot who is Combiner-sized on his own, or have him serve as the core of a Combiner?--[[User:OptimusMagnus|OptimusMagnus]] ([[User talk:OptimusMagnus|talk]]) 23:05, 28 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I mean Road Ceaser. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 23:17, 28 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::I figured, but wanted to make sure; I do like your idea. If Star Saber were the core, it might due to rename the Combined form "Star Caesar" or perhaps "Brain Caesar" (since his components include all four Brainmasters).<br />
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The version here is a copy of a version I prepared for the wikipedia on 01:34, 2007 December 14. Unfortunately the article was deleted prior to my copying the revision history. But I believe I was the sole author of its intellectual content. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 20:03, 4 July 2012 (MSD)<br />
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:This is not unfortunately. It is good. Thanks. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:16, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Adeline5T&diff=188955User talk:Adeline5T2017-07-03T06:15:53Z<p>CityOfSilver: Created page with "Why do you live in boston? ~~~~"</p>
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<div>Why do you live in boston? '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:15, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:A_Suggestion&diff=188954User talk:A Suggestion2017-07-03T06:15:08Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>Please don't say talk to your self. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:15, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:AlphaOne&diff=188953User talk:AlphaOne2017-07-03T06:14:21Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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Greetings. Can I ask how you decided to start contributing here?<br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 23:14, 22 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
* Thanks for [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=User_talk:Geo_Swan&diff=0&oldid=13988 your reply]. I think I can assure your contributions won't be deleted here, on claims of non-notability or original research.<br />
: Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 20:54, 25 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Welcome==<br />
Hello, I saw you were adding some obscure fictional character to WikiAlpha. Good work. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. If I can make a suggestion, it's always a good idea to have at least one category on a page, and if a page is disambiguated, refer to the page it is disambiguated from. I'll add them to your Daredevil page so you can see what I mean. Hope you don't mind. <br />
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I hope it's okay, but I made some changed to the categories for your pages, just to make them consistent with how categories are done. I didn't remove anything, just made some fixes. If you have any questions, let me know. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 16:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Split Wonder Man==<br />
I split Wonder Man into two articles, since they were made by different people, in different years, by different companies. If you think this is wrong, I can put it back. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 12:24, 8 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Wikipedia article import==<br />
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:Hello. This is a note to let you know that I detected your edits. I reverted them. Thanks. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Alicianpig&diff=188952User:Alicianpig2017-07-03T06:13:18Z<p>CityOfSilver: Undo revision 2722 by Alicianpig (talk)</p>
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Congratulations on [[Innocent prisoner's dilemma]]<br />
it is a good article. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 20:28, 15 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:I am sending others some mail. Don't you see that? '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:12, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Govind&diff=188950User:Govind2017-07-03T06:11:45Z<p>CityOfSilver: Undo revision 188936 by CityOfSilver (talk)</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[User talk:Govind]]</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Template:Tl&diff=188949Template:Tl2017-07-03T06:11:31Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>Don't say hi. I am editing your talk page. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:10, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Third-party_Transformer&diff=188947Talk:Third-party Transformer2017-07-03T06:09:22Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>"Third-party" should be a hyphenated adjective.<br />
:If you are sure I can do a global search and replace. Are you sure? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 23:04, 29 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::I need to move these pages. Thank one of them to you who moved these pages. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:09, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Melvin_L._Morse&diff=188946Talk:Melvin L. Morse2017-07-03T06:08:28Z<p>CityOfSilver: Replaced content with "I don't like spam. I removed these links. That is because I smelled them, and they are spam. Do not add spam links. If you do, you ''will'' be blocked indefinitely from ed..."</p>
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<div>I don't like spam. I removed these links. That is because I smelled them, and they are spam. Do not add spam links. If you do, you ''will'' be blocked indefinitely from editing. Thank you. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:08, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=302nd_Military_Intelligence_Battalion_(United_States)&diff=188944302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)2017-07-03T06:06:30Z<p>CityOfSilver: CityOfSilver moved page 302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States) to Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States) over redirect</p>
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The '''302nd Military Intelligence Battalion''' (302nd MI BN), whose unit crest portrays the "sly fox", evolved from the 3252d Signal Service Company which was activated in England on 1 April 1944. The 3252nd saw service in France and Germany before returning to [[Camp Kilmer]], New Jersey, where it was deactivated in 1945. The unit was awarded battle credits for participation in the [[Invasion of Normandy]]. The 3252nd was re-designated the 533rd Signal Service Company in 1948 and served until 1949 in [[Salzburg, Austria]].<br />
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In 1950, the 533rd Signal Service Company was re-designated the 302nd Communications Reconnaissance Battalion. It was assigned to the Army Security Agency and activated at [[Camp Pickett, Virginia]]. The unit departed Camp Pickett in 1951 to [[Fort Hood]], Texas in 1952. In August 1952, the unit departed for Germany. In 1957, the 302nd was deactivated in Germany. <br />
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In 1975, the 302nd was reactivated in Germany and assigned to the 502nd Army Security Agency (ASA) in support of [[V Corps (United States)|V Corps]]. In 1977, the battalion was transferred from the Army Security Agency to [[United States Army Europe]] (USAREUR).<br />
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In 1984, the 302nd was reorganized as the 302nd Military Intelligence Battalion, and subordinated to the 205th Military Intelligence Group of V Corps under the [[Combat Electronics Warfare Intelligence]] (CEWI) Concept. In 1985, the 302nd was subordinated from the 205th Military Intelligence Group to the [[205th Military Intelligence Brigade]].<br />
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In August 1990, a detachment deployed to Saudi Arabia for Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm.<ref>{{cite web|author=John Pike |url=http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/302mi-b.htm |title=302nd Military Intelligence Battalion |publisher=Globalsecurity.org |accessdate=20 May 2011}}</ref> Through the nineties, the 302nd deployed to the [[Balkans]] and was awarded the [[Superior Unit Award]].<ref>http://www.205mi.wiesbaden.army.mil/302MI/history.htm</ref> <br />
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As part of V Corps, the 302nd deployed to Iraq for [[Operation Iraqi Freedom]] in 2003 and a subsequent rotation. The unit was awarded two [[Meritorious Unit Commendations]]. On 20 September 2003, Specialist Lunsford Brown, from Alpha Company, was killed in action at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.fallenheroesmemorial.com/oif/profiles/browniilunsfordb.html |title=Army Spc. Lunsford B. Brown II |publisher=Fallen Heroes Memorial |date=20 September 2003 |accessdate=20 May 2011}}</ref> <br />
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On January 2nd, 2004, James Stacy Adams, the battalion's [[Command Sergeant]], was found dead in his apartment.<ref name=Military2004-05-25><br />
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Peers who knew and admired Adams report one of his favorite sayings was ''"with proper NCO leadership, a private can do no wrong."''<ref name=Military2004-05-25/> <br />
They questioned the extent to which his death was the result of sudden depression over the prospect courts martial would require him to testify against the men he commanded who had played a role in the [[Abu Ghraib Prisoner abuse scandal]].<br />
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In 2007, the 302nd began its transformation into the [[24th Military Intelligence Battalion]]. With the deactivation of the [[205th Military Intelligence Brigade]], in October 2007, the 302nd was assigned to USAREUR and attached to the [[66th Military Intelligence Group]].<ref>[http://www.inscom.army.mil/MSC/66MI/302ndMI/history.html ]<!--{{dead link|date=May 2011}}--></ref><br />
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==Unit Crest==<br />
"White and teal blue, are symbolic of the battalion's former status as an unassigned-to-branch unit. The battalion's war service as a signal unit is shown by the colors of the fox's mask and background, while the intelligence functions of the unit are represented by the black censor's stamp. The key is for the unit's first campaign (Normandy) in World War II and also alludes to signal and intelligence functions. The stylized lightning flashes symbolize radio reconnaissance."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nasaa-home.org/history/lineage/302.htm |title=302nd MI Bn |publisher=Nasaa-home.org |accessdate=20 May 2011}}</ref><br />
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==Decorations==<br />
*[[Meritorious Unit Commendation]] for Operation Iraqi Freedom 2005–2006<ref name = MUC>{{cite web| title = Permanent Orders 222-20| url =http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/wotawards.html#2007| publisher=[[United States Army Center of Military History]]| accessdate =25 June 2010| date = 14 August 2007| archiveurl= http://web.archive.org/web/20100609005921/http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/wotawards.html| archivedate= 9 June 2010 <!--DASHBot-->| deadurl= no}}</ref><br />
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===Company A===<br />
*Meritorious Unit Commendation for Operation Iraqi Freedom 2003–2004<ref name = CoAMUC>{{cite web| title = Permanent Orders 222-19| url =http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/wotawards.html#2007| publisher=[[United States Army Center of Military History]]| accessdate =25 June 2010| date = 14 August 2007| archiveurl= http://web.archive.org/web/20100609005921/http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/wotawards.html| archivedate= 9 June 2010 <!--DASHBot-->| deadurl= no}}</ref><br />
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[[User:Nick-D]] removed most of the material on James Stacy Adams, claiming it was unreferenced or unimportant.<br />
I believe Nick-D's comments suggest he thought it would be allowed to remove relevant material on US torturers where those charged with conducting the official inquired had failed to hold the torturers to account. So I reverted the excision. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 14:39, 19 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:Messing up some talk pages? Then you will be blocked indefinitely. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 03:16, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough&diff=188941User talk:Rich Farmbrough2017-07-03T06:04:59Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>== Greetings! ==<br />
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I visited your talk page today, and I saw a link to this wiki. I see close to a dozen people signed up today -- maybe other visitors to your page.<br />
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Ideally we could be completely fickle, and package up our contributions and port them to any wiki we want. Did you see there was a link to upload any article from the wikipedia? I'll have to try that. Some other wikis I have tried, like http://complexoperations.org, don't support {{tl|cite}} templates, making porting article there take a considerable hit per reference. I have also made a meaningful contribution to http://Citizendium.org. Both of these wikis have interesting local adaptations to the mediawiki software.<br />
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Are you old enough to remember the wars between fans of the emacs editor and fans of vi? Emacs fans used to say ''"Why even Bill Joy (vi's author and the founding vice president of technology for Sun Microsystems) doesn't use vi anymore."'' I heard this claim for years. Then I read an interview with Joy. <br />
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He explained that since everyone had the source to vi, it was so likely to be locally modified, that, if he were visiting some other site, and decided to give a little demonstration, he was very likely to find laconic vi wouldn't work. So, when he visited other sites he would always used the 1970s era ed -- a simple non-visual editor.<br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 01:49, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:Ah yes, [[Ed (unix)]]... I used it for ages while waiting to see who would win out of vi and emacs. Same with shells, I feel I should probably used tsch, but I end up using the default. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
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::<small>(talk page stalker)</small> Vi... what a blast from the past. I haven't used that for a decade or two. Since this seems to be an old-timer discussion, I thought I'd join in, hope you don't mind. I remember the good old days writing scripts for tcsh and bash. I grabbed slackware when Patrick V. first released it. Speaking of slackware, I remember when the Church of the Subgenius was all over Usenet, and their kerfuffle with Co$. I see Modemac was one of the first admins on Wikipedia. Back in the early days of Wikipedia, it seemed like it attracted a lot of the "Usenet refugees" (as I like to call them), myself included. Those were the good old days, when you knew most everybody that was on the net. Fun times. Thanks for bringing back some fond old memories. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 07:42, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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:::I was fairly quiet on Usenet, I joined the IPV6 mailing list, thinking I could contribute, but it was all pretty well sussed out. I gave up before the real spam wave hit it. I had Coherent's unix, and possibly a copy of Xenix. I also got the full monty SCO unix with masses of addons when work threw it out (on 5 1/4s), but never used it. I have a rackmount server that is supposed to run Linux, but it's too noisy, so I just use my consumer PCs locally. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
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:::* There used to be a newsgroup devoted solely to new sites joining USENET. It had a standard form the new systems administrator would fill out, saying where they were, what the did, what kind of computer(s) they used, and how many users they had. I happened to notice when Memorial University in St John's Newfoundland joined. Once upon a time, including 1981-2 when they joined, other Canadians liked to make "newfies" the butt of stupid jokes -- you probably had the same kind of jokes where you were from, targetting some other group. ''Anyhow'', appended to the end of this standard form the systems administrator said: <br />
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:::: Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 18:17, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::::The research I was doing at Oxford last year was under a Newfie Fellow. I guess he must miss the Newfie jokes. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
:::::* WRT newfoundlanders -- have you seen ''The Shipping News''? Gordon Pinsent, a genuine newfoundlander, plays a supporting role in that film. When Dame Judi Dench and a bunch of Hollywood actors showed up to make the film locals were uninterested in them, and instead tried to talk to them about the local hero, Pinsent. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 17:41, 7 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
┌──────────────────────────┘<br />How about writing out [[wikipedia:bang path|bang paths]] to get your email from here to there? It seemed so natural at the time, but looking back now... wow, that's really clunky by today's standards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 15:40, 7 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:* Yes, bang paths, and if your institution was too cheap to have its modems make the outgoing calls, you needed to know the daily callout schedule of site`s with deeper pockets -- or at least that is how I remember it. lol.<br />
::Allegra -- what does that name evoke for you guys? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 17:41, 7 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::Ah sadly I was not enfranchised to use bang paths, though I was introduced to them by Alarumns and Excursions where Lee Gold had a bang path you could use to send you contributions. After that email was Prestel, then an international company's email where the elite were "EMU"s email users. Then Cix, Demon and suddenly I was running multiple sendmail servers myself, and creating gloriously tortuous sendmail re-writing rules. We also hosted Breathe which was a substantial early UK consumer email provider. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
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== Credit where credit is due ==<br />
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I really have to give you credit, Rich. Please let me explain. I dropped out of Wikipedia many years ago because I found it to be draining. Just absolutely draining. So I try to limit myself to articles and rarely post to talk pages or contribute to discussions at notice boards or the village pumps. By limiting my involvement, it seems to have given me a 10,000 foot view of Wikipedia. I don't have a horse in any race so I see things more clearly. I do still keep an eye on things though and from my perspective, you've been put through the wringer. I can only imagine the hell it must be for you. But through all this, I haven't seen you lose you cool at all. You've been courteous and respectful. You truly are an honorable gentleman so I have to give you a lot of credit for that. As we all know, there are very few people on Wikipedia that can be called honorable in the best of times, much less going through what you have. You really deserve a lot of praise in my opinion. It is a testament to your character as a human being.<br />
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I also want to thank you for helping over here. It is very generous of you. I hope WikiAlpha will provide you with a calmer place to edit and one that appreciates you hard work. Perhaps it will relieve some of the stress you must be under. Lord knows, you certainly deserve to have some stress free time. Anyway, thanks again for your help. I really appreciate your efforts. All the best. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 15:44, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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:I am glad you think so. It is a pleasure to help here, if we can get the API sorted (I may be making a blunder, of course), we should be able to achieve a fair amount. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
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== Hope you are well ==<br />
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Just saw the stuff over at Wikipedia. I hope you are doing well. It looks like I found the API. See [[WikiAlpha:Community portal#API]]. Perhaps it will take your mind off other things. All the best to you my friend. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]])<br />
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== API should be working now ==<br />
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Hi Rich. Both [[User:Richard]] and [[User:Govind]] are back now and should be able to help with any future issues. Richard [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=WikiAlpha:Community_portal&diff=9430&oldid=9424 made a change] so things should be working now. Thanks for the help. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 17:46, 9 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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:You do live in a barn, don't you? It is an unsigned comment added by me. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:04, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Web&diff=188940User talk:Web2017-07-03T06:04:11Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>==Welcome one and all==<br />
Welcome to my talk page. Everybody is welcome to leave a message for me here. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 10:55, 18 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Thanks for the attribs / templates, appreciated :) [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 18:34, 24 August 2011 (MSD)<br />
:You're welcome. Actually, I just wanted the TV infobox, but it was dependant on a bunch of other templates so I needed to recreate them. Just a bunch of cut/paste from Wikipedia to be honest. I'm happy to help were I can. It's really you and Richard that have done all the work getting this place running and offering it to people out of sheer good will. You two (and Mathew) are the ones that need to be thanked. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 06:21, 25 August 2011 (MSD)<br />
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I'm trying to get [[Template:Episode list]] to work properly, but it's proving to be an impossible task for me. An example is at [[User:Web/sandbox]], which should look like [[Wikipedia:List of Inner Sanctum episodes]]. I'm unable to determine why the formatting is off. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 06:14, 5 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:OK the main issue is with templatology using en:WP templates is that templates recursively call other templates. It will take a few days to sort this universally, but the basic solution is to bring across from WP the pages on [[Special:WantedTemplates]]. <br />
:The other aspect is css. While I am currently ignorant of css, having forgotten all I knew about it, the style settings for such as infoboxes are in places like common.css. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
::Thanks very much for the help, Rich. I'm guessing common.css as in [[MediaWiki:common.css]] rather than [[User:Web/common.css]]. I'll start copying over the templates. Thanks again. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 07:11, 5 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::Yes that's correct. The templates need their CC-BY-SA status maintaining though, as does the css. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
::::Will do. Thanks again for the help. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 07:09, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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Until the copyright issues are addressed there's not a lot I can do. I think this is supposed to be addressed by the convo. at the community portal, but id does need to be actually done. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
:Hi Rich. Thanks for the heads up. Do you mean changing the footer that says "Content is available under Public Domain"? I think we've been using [[Template:Wp-cca]] to try and comply with the requirements. I'm guessing the text is in something like [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] but for the footer. I'm not exactly sure where it's at. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 07:33, 5 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
::It's in two mediawiki pages, I noted at the community portal. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
:::Thanks again. I saw the note there and left a message for the site operator. Hope to have it fixed soon. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 07:11, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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::::What is it? Thanks. I would like to come here! Contribute slow because you are a spider. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:04, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Alicianpig&diff=188939User talk:Alicianpig2017-07-03T06:02:35Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>==Welcome and thanks==<br />
Hi there, Alicianpig. Thanks for helping out here at WikiAlpha. Sorry that so much of your stuff got deleted over at Wikipedia. I saw your thread over there about deleting non-notable articles and agreed with everything you said, but unfortunately many of the people over there don't agree and that is the biggest problem Wikipedia has. Anyway, I just wanted to welcome you and thank you for coming over here. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 09:12, 30 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi there. Do not add spam links. It may look like I saw spam, and I can remove them. Thank you. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 06:02, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:%E2%98%82_Mohammad_Habibur_Rahman_Rafi&diff=188938Talk:☂ Mohammad Habibur Rahman Rafi2017-07-03T06:01:46Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>great name :) [[User:Alicianpig|Alicianpig]] ([[User talk:Alicianpig|talk]]) 17:32, 10 August 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Thanks. :) [[User:☂|☂]] ([[User talk:☂|talk]]) 20:37, 10 August 2011 (MSD)<br />
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<blockquote>WikiAlpha has no notability requirements, and accepts articles on all ''legal topics'' including news...</blockquote><br />
I initially thought it meant "legal topics" (i.e., court cases, lawyer briefs, supreme court decisions) as opposed to "topics that are legal". Maybe it would be helpful to rewrite that section to clarify it. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 09:45, 26 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
: Good idea :) [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 15:26, 26 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
::I take in "legal" means nothing stolen can be placed on Wikipedia, like stolen copywritten source code, government secret documents, emails hacked from private individuals, etc? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 17:30, 26 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:::I think you're right, Mathewignash. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 05:37, 28 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Onviously jokers will try to push the limits of non-notability, for instance [[2048 (number)]]. I'm not sure if or how that article should be addressed, you could just leave it be. Another ideas is it delete it because it's not really encyclopedic, it's more of a dictionary definition. Wikialpha is an Encyclopedia, not a dictionary. Another possibility is it move the article to [[Atari 2600]], since the only reference on the page concerns it. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 17:33, 26 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:It's not a joke. I figured you guys could use an article on something other than Transformers characters, and 2048 was the smallest power of two not to have a Wikipedia article, presumably because of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28numbers%29 Wikipedia's notability policy on numbers]. Wikipedia has articles on 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 512 and 1024, but not 2048. But if mathematical topics aren't welcome here, that's fine. I'm sure there's a niche for a Transformers-only wiki. [[User:☂|☂]] ([[User talk:☂|talk]]) 19:24, 26 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Honestly, you are amusing, I just figured I'd bring up the subject of dictionary vs. encyclopedia. Most likely the owners of Wikialpha will keep the article because it's one more article from one more author to addd to the count. I wonder if someone can out-non-notable you? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 19:37, 26 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:::I dunno, is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/512_%28number%29 this] a serious encyclopedia article? Discuss. [[User:☂|☂]] ([[User talk:☂|talk]]) 19:44, 26 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
::::Maybe I'm just jealous you out-non-notabled me with my article about a comic book villain who appeared in one issue of a comic, that was a convention exclusive comic book that had a very limited run. [[Toxitron]] Anyways, I'm just about done moving over all the articles on Transformers that were deleted from Wikipedia. I planned to start going through the articles on other subjects next so we get some variation of articles here. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 20:04, 26 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:::::Variation is good. It will be interesting to see what mix of topics comes about. [[User:☂|☂]] ([[User talk:☂|talk]]) 20:26, 26 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
::::::Hey guys. Numbers articles are fine as long as they provide some value to the reader. If you make a page "587483", with text "587483 is a number" then that would qualify for deletion on WikiAlpha for being of little or no value to any reader. [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 01:51, 27 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:::::::I think, "the more, the merrier". I'm very happy that [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] has done all that work on the transformer articles and that [[User:☂|☂]] has joined us. I'm also thankful for all the hard work of [[User:Richard|Richard]] and [[User:Govind|Govind]] for setting up this safe haven and keeping it running. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 05:47, 28 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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<div>'''Autobots''' are a recurring faction in the [[Transformers]] toy and media franchise, usually depicted in opposition to the [[Decepticons]]. The Autobots are usually seen as the protagonists, often allied with similarly noble humans, under the leadership of such characters as [[Optimus Prime]].<br />
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The one continuity in which the Autobots are for the most part depicted as villains rather than heroes, in a mirror universe where they fight against the heroic Decepticons.<br />
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The '''Autobots''' are a recurring faction in the [[Transformers]] toy and media franchise, usually depicted in opposition to the [[Decepticons]]. The Autobots are usually seen as the protagonists, often allied with similarly noble humans, under the leadership of such characters as [[Optimus Prime]].<br />
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[[File:World 1 CE.PNG|thumb|The world in 1 AD]]<br />
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Year '''1''' ('''[[Roman numerals|I]]''') was a common year starting on [[Common year starting on Saturday|Saturday]] or [[Common year starting on Sunday|Sunday]] (link will display the full calendar) of the [[Julian calendar]] (the sources differ, see [[Julian calendar#Leap year error|leap year error]] for further information) and a [[common year starting on Saturday]] of the [[Proleptic Julian calendar]]. It is a [[Common year starting on Monday]], in the [[Proleptic Gregorian calendar]] system. At the time, it was known as the '''Year of the [[Consulship]] of [[Gaius Caesar|Caesar]] and [[Lucius Aemilius Paullus (consul 1)|Paullus]]''' (or, less frequently, '''year 754 ''[[Ab urbe condita]]'''''). The denomination 1 for this year has been used since the early [[Middle Ages|medieval period]], when the [[Anno Domini]] [[calendar era]] became the prevalent method in Europe for naming years. It was the first year of the [[Anno Domini|Christian]]/[[Common Era|Common]] era. The preceding year is [[1 BC]] in the widely used Julian calendar, which does not have a "[[0 (year)|year zero]]".<br />
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* [[Tiberius]], under order of [[Augustus]], quells revolts in [[Germania]] (1–[[5]]).<br />
* [[Gaius Caesar]] and [[Lucius Aemilius Paullus (consul 1)|Lucius Aemilius Paullus]] are appointed consuls. <br />
* Gaius Caesar marries [[Livilla]], daughter of [[Antonia Minor]] and [[Nero Claudius Drusus]], in an effort to gain prestige.<br />
* [[Quirinius]] becomes a chief advisor to Gaius in Armenia. [[Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus (consul 32)|Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus]], whose father [[Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus (consul 16 BCE)|Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus]] had served as [[consul]] in [[16 BCE]], also serves in the Armenia campaigns.<br />
* Areius Paianeius becomes [[Archon of Athens]].<br />
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* The ''[[Yuanshi Era|Yuanshi]]'' era of the Chinese [[Han Dynasty]] begins.<br />
* [[Confucius]] is given his first royal title ([[posthumous name]]) of Lord Baochengxun Ni.<br />
* [[Emperor Ping of Han China]] begins his reign and [[Wang Mang]] is re-instated as regent by [[Grand Empress Dowager Wang]].<br />
* [[Sapadbizes]], Yuezhi prince and King of [[Kushan Empire|Kush]] ([[Bactria]]), dies. [[Heraios]] succeeds him as king.<br />
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* The [[Kingdom of Aksum]], centered in modern day [[Ethiopia]] and [[Eritrea]], is founded (approximate date).<br />
* [[Amanishakheto]], Queen of [[Kingdom of Kush|Kush]] ([[Nubia]]), dies. Her son, [[Natakamani]], becomes King of Kush.<br />
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* [[Moxos people|Moxos]] ceases to be a significant religious area in [[South America]] (approximate date).<br />
* The [[Teotihuacan]] culture in [[Mesoamerica]] begins (approximate date).<br />
* The Maya practice sacrifice and mutilation.<br />
*The Olmec 2 phase of the Olmec civilization begins; San Lorenzo and La Venta grow in population.*<br />
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* The poem ''[[Metamorphoses (poem)|Metamorphoses]]'' is written by [[Ovid]].<br />
* [[Livy]] continues writing his monumental ''History of Rome'' (''[[Ab Urbe Condita (book)|Ab Urbe Condita]]'').<br />
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* Birth of [[Jesus]], as assigned by [[Dionysius Exiguus]] in his [[anno Domini]] era according to at least one scholar.<ref name=declercq1>Georges Declercq, ''Anno Domini: The origins of the Christian Era'' (Turnhout, Belgium: Brepols, 2000), pp.143–147.</ref><ref name=declercq2>G. Declercq, "Dionysius Exiguus and the introduction of the Christian Era", ''Sacris Erudiri'' '''41''' (2002) 165–246, pp.242–246. Annotated version of a portion of ''Anno Domini''.</ref> However, most scholars think Dionysius placed the birth of Jesus in the previous year, [[1 BC]].<ref name=declercq1/><ref name=declercq2/> Despite this, most modern scholars do not consider Dionysius' calculations authoritative, placing the event several years earlier (see [[Chronology of Jesus]]).<ref>James D. G. Dunn, ''Jesus Remembered'', Eerdmans Publishing (2003), page 324.</ref></onlyinclude><br />
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* [[Lucius Annaeus Gallio]], Roman proconsul (d. [[65]])<br />
* [[Quinctilius Varus]], son of [[Publius Quinctilius Varus]] and [[Claudia Pulchra]] (d. c. [[27]])<br />
* [[Pallas (freedman)|Pallas]], Greek [[Freedman]] and political advisor (d. [[63]])<br />
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* [[Arshak II of Iberia]], king of [[Caucasian Iberia|Iberia]] of the [[Nimrodid Dynasty]]<br />
* [[Sapadbizes]] king of the [[Kushan Empire]]<br />
* [[Amanishakheto]], Queen of [[Kingdom of Kush|Kush]]<br />
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<div>'''Open content''' is a concept introduced by [[WikiAlpha]]. It is analogous to [[open source]] in the field of programming; open content is content anyone can add to or review. Open content also implies broad standards as to what is accepted as content. For example, on WikiAlpha we accept [[original research]], [[news]], unpublished scientific and [[journal]] articles, and pages documenting [[phenomenona]] physical or virtual.</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:302nd_Military_Intelligence_Battalion_(United_States)&diff=188925Talk:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)2017-07-03T03:17:08Z<p>CityOfSilver: /* explanation */</p>
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[[User:Nick-D]] removed most of the material on James Stacy Adams, claiming it was unreferenced or unimportant.<br />
I believe Nick-D's comments suggest he thought it would be allowed to remove relevant material on US torturers where those charged with conducting the official inquired had failed to hold the torturers to account. So I reverted the excision. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 14:39, 19 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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<div>==Trimming metadata==<br />
Greetings<br />
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I saw you moved [[Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion]] to [[302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]].<br />
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When I first started participating here I was told there weren't as many rules as the wikipedia, but one request was to refrain from moving articles deleted from the wikipedia to article space here, until after any metadata only supported on the wikipedia was trimmed.<br />
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I [https://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=302nd_Military_Intelligence_Battalion_(United_States)&diff=185180&oldid=185159 did that] for that article. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 09:14, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:Can I just import the required templates from Wikipedia instead of removing those that didn't exist? {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 12:31, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:* Er, I am just another contributor here, so I can't give you official permission. My guess? <br />
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:: The site's owners would appreciate you porting templates -- ''so long as you make sure they work.'' <p>The tricky thing is that most templates at the wikipedia are created by people who have worked hard to make sure they know how templates work. And many of those templates are complicated, depend on many other templates. <br />
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:: I've worked on several other small wikis. One other wiki I contributed to supported core templates, like the {{tl|cite news}} templates. But half a dozen others didn't support ''ANY'' templates. <br />
<br />
:: Wikialpha supports a good solid subset of templates. <br />
<br />
:: But, porting the complicated templates for military units? Bear in mind they will rely on a dozen, or dozens, of ''other'' templates that also haven't been ported here. If you were an expert at working on templates, you might be able to set them up.<br />
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:: If you aren't an expert at working on templates? Forget it would be my advice. <br />
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:: Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:27, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Okay. Thanks. {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 05:08, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==disambiguation==<br />
<br />
There are different approaches to disambiguation. Many people think adding disambiguators to article names can be postponed until it is necessary. Others think it should be put in the name, right at the beginning, when it is likely to be necessary some day. <br />
<br />
In this particular case it is unlikely to be necessary. Other nation's armies have battalions. But they have different naming conventions. Even if one had a 302nd battalion, it might be an armoured battalion, or an artillery battalion, or whatever. And, even if other nations had one, would it merit an article? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 09:23, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:The article above was imported from Wikipedia, so its name was from WP too. Also, the original name is [[Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]], not "Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion". {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 12:31, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:* Okay.<br />
:: Do you think we have enough articles on '''''OTHER''''' battalions, to justify the disambiguator ''"(United States)"''? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:12, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Leaving a redirect==<br />
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You didn't leave one. That made it more work to find where you put the article. Is there a reason you didn't leave a redirect? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 09:23, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:A redirect from and to what? From <span style=color:#0645ad>Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion</span> to [[302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]]? The original name of the article before the move was [[Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)|Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]], not the article name/hyperlink you put above, as I said in my above reply. {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 12:31, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:* A redirect from [[Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion]] to [[302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]]. When you move something there is a checkbox, for "leave redirect". On the wikipedia "leave redirect" is permanently on, unless you are an administrator. But here, if you don't click the box, no redirect is left. So, I got an email about the article, but when I clicked on it, to see what changes had been made, I found a [[redlink]]. If you had left a redirect, I would have found the article, right away. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:35, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Hold the presses... ==<br />
<br />
I see you have ported some templates. If you got them working then you are probably already more of an expert on templates than I am.<br />
<br />
I'll warn about something. You ported [[:Template:Al-Odah]].<br />
<br />
Ten years or so ago I created half a dozen simple templates, connected with Guantanamo captives. There were in use for close to a year, without any template expert noticing them. They '''did''' create problems for the 99 percent of contributor who, didn't know how templates and "transclusion" worked. <br />
<br />
Eventually other people challenged them, put them up for deletion. I got mad at one administrator, who deleted one, when I thought the deletion discussion should have been closed as "no consensus". But the administrator, was a template expert, which I wasn't. None of those who weighed in with delete opinions was either. That administrator convinced me that the whole approach I had used was a mistake, given the state of the wikimedia foundation software the wikipedia, and wikialpha uses.<br />
<br />
I stopped using that template. But a collaborator of mine, Sherurcij, created some improved template, that still had the same weakness of those I created.<br />
<br />
Initially, I had thought that, if a whole bunch of articles were all going to contain the same content, I could tuck that editorial content into a template. This would have the huge advantage that, if an update was needed, I would only have to update the editorial content in the template, and the change would be made everywhere.<br />
<br />
The disadvantage is that, it was terribly frustrating for other contributors. They would see that editorial content, open the editor, to change it, and then not be able to find it. Why, because the editorial content they wanted to change was in a template, somewhere else.<br />
<br />
What that patient administrator explained to me, ten years ago, was that, on the wikipedia, templates weren't allowed to transclude in editorial content. If they render stuff that appears on the screen, it has to be colored, or in a box, so editors can recognize it is special, and look for the template. <br />
<br />
Because Sherurcij was my close collaborator, I didn't nominate his templates, but I knew they would have been deleted, if only more wikipedia contributors were knowledgeable about templates.<br />
<br />
Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 04:05, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
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<div>==Trimming metadata==<br />
Greetings<br />
<br />
I saw you moved [[Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion]] to [[302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]].<br />
<br />
When I first started participating here I was told there weren't as many rules as the wikipedia, but one request was to refrain from moving articles deleted from the wikipedia to article space here, until after any metadata only supported on the wikipedia was trimmed.<br />
<br />
I [https://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=302nd_Military_Intelligence_Battalion_(United_States)&diff=185180&oldid=185159 did that] for that article. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 09:14, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:Can I just import the required templates from Wikipedia instead of removing those that didn't exist? {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 12:31, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:* Er, I am just another contributor here, so I can't give you official permission. My guess? <br />
<br />
:: The site's owners would appreciate you porting templates -- ''so long as you make sure they work.'' <p>The tricky thing is that most templates at the wikipedia are created by people who have worked hard to make sure they know how templates work. And many of those templates are complicated, depend on many other templates. <br />
<br />
:: I've worked on several other small wikis. One other wiki I contributed to supported core templates, like the {{tl|cite news}} templates. But half a dozen others didn't support ''ANY'' templates. <br />
<br />
:: Wikialpha supports a good solid subset of templates. <br />
<br />
:: But, porting the complicated templates for military units? Bear in mind they will rely on a dozen, or dozens, of ''other'' templates that also haven't been ported here. If you were an expert at working on templates, you might be able to set them up.<br />
<br />
:: If you aren't an expert at working on templates? Forget it would be my advice. <br />
<br />
:: Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:27, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Okay. Thanks. {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 05:08, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==disambiguation==<br />
<br />
There are different approaches to disambiguation. Many people think adding disambiguators to article names can be postponed until it is necessary. Others think it should be put in the name, right at the beginning, when it is likely to be necessary some day. <br />
<br />
In this particular case it is unlikely to be necessary. Other nation's armies have battalions. But they have different naming conventions. Even if one had a 302nd battalion, it might be an armoured battalion, or an artillery battalion, or whatever. And, even if other nations had one, would it merit an article? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 09:23, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:The article above was imported from Wikipedia, so its name was from WP too. Also, the original name is [[Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]], not "Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion". {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 12:31, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:* Okay.<br />
:: Do you think we have enough articles on '''''OTHER''''' battalions, to justify the disambiguator ''"(United States)"''? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:12, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Leaving a redirect==<br />
<br />
You didn't leave one. That made it more work to find where you put the article. Is there a reason you didn't leave a redirect? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 09:23, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:A redirect from and to what? From <span style=color:#0645ad>Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion</span> to [[302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]]? The original name of the article before the move was [[Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)|Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]], not the article name/hyperlink you put above, as I said in my above reply. {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 12:31, 25 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:* A redirect from [[Deleted:302nd Military Intelligence Battalion]] to [[302nd Military Intelligence Battalion (United States)]]. When you move something there is a checkbox, for "leave redirect". On the wikipedia "leave redirect" is permanently on, unless you are an administrator. But here, if you don't click the box, no redirect is left. So, I got an email about the article, but when I clicked on it, to see what changes had been made, I found a [[redlink]]. If you had left a redirect, I would have found the article, right away. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:35, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Hold the presses... ==<br />
<br />
I see you have ported some templates. If you got them working then you are probably already more of an expert on templates than I am.<br />
<br />
I'll warn about something. You ported [[:Template:Al-Odah]].<br />
<br />
Ten years or so ago I created half a dozen simple templates, connected with Guantanamo captives. There were in use for close to a year, without any template expert noticing them. They '''did''' create problems for the 99 percent of contributor who, didn't know how templates and "transclusion" worked. <br />
<br />
Eventually other people challenged them, put them up for deletion. I got mad at one administrator, who deleted one, when I thought the deletion discussion should have been closed as "no consensus". But the administrator, was a template expert, which I wasn't. None of those who weighed in with delete opinions was either. That administrator convinced me that the whole approach I had used was a mistake, given the state of the wikimedia foundation software the wikipedia, and wikialpha uses.<br />
<br />
I stopped using that template. But a collaborator of mine, Sherurcij, created some improved template, that still had the same weakness of those I created.<br />
<br />
Initially, I had thought that, if a whole bunch of articles were all going to contain the same content, I could tuck that editorial content into a template. This would have the huge advantage that, if an update was needed, I would only have to update the editorial content in the template, and the change would be made everywhere.<br />
<br />
The disadvantage is that, it was terribly frustrating for other contributors. They would see that editorial content, open the editor, to change it, and then not be able to find it. Why, because the editorial content they wanted to change was in a template, somewhere else.<br />
<br />
What that patient administrator explained to me, ten years ago, was that, on the wikipedia, templates weren't allowed to transclude in editorial content. If they render stuff that appears on the screen, it has to be colored, or in a box, so editors can recognize it is special, and look for the template. <br />
<br />
Because Sherurcij was my close collaborator, I didn't nominate his templates, but I knew they would have been deleted, if only more wikipedia contributors were knowledgeable about templates.<br />
<br />
Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 04:05, 31 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Best regards for posting to this site. Contribute. Fast! '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 03:15, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Geo_Swan&diff=188921User talk:Geo Swan2017-07-03T03:15:14Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>== Glad to have you aboard ==<br />
Hi Geo Swan. I'm glad to have you aboard and thank for your contributions. I see you have a great deal of good articles userfied over at Wikipedia. I'm fairly certain that they'd be welcome here. Anyhoo, I just wanted to say hi and thanks for contributing. Best regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 15:17, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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== Articles deleted from Wikipedia ==<br />
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I'm working on your list of articles deleted from Wikipedia. Looks like some have been userfied, so I'm still running through the list trying to figure things out.<br />
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The first 20 have been undeleted and copied over here at WikiAlpha by Moonriddengirl who has been generously helping me. There is a [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=WikiAlpha:Sandbox&oldid=10105 list here] showing the progress I'm making. Best regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 15:48, 11 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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* Thank you very much with your help with this. I anticipate this will be hundreds of hours of work to get these deleted articles into article space here. And I appreciate every bit of assistance. <br />
* Another complication is that in some cases the article on the captive has been replaced by a namesake. [[Charles H. Carpenter]] being a case in point. <br />
* I'll try to get all the userified ones copied here within the next 10 days. For them I can look at the full revision history and form my own judgment as to whether I was the sole author of the intellectual content. When I askedthe closing admin of [[Charles H. Carpenter (lawyer)]] for their help I asked them if they could either also email me a listing of the contributors, or confirm my recollection I was the sole author of its intellectual content. They didn't confirm, orsend me a listing. I am not 100% comfortable, but I went with my recollection.<br />
:Thanks again! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 20:16, 11 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
::I've gone through the list and [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=WikiAlpha:Sandbox&oldid=10265 updated it here] .It appears about half are already userfied, so I included those links for convenience. There's another set that were moved to your userspace then deleted, so only you are able to ask for those to be undeleted. I'll see if I can get a few admins to undelete the rest and move them here. Best regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 19:10, 12 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::I got some very generous help from two great admins, Dcoetzee and WereSpielChequers. It looks like there's only 40 or so articles left to go. The [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=WikiAlpha:Sandbox&oldid=10407 updated list is here]. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 21:36, 13 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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:::* Thanks for all your help. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 20:38, 14 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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== Saying hi ==<br />
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Hello, <br />
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I'm just getting started here and I see you're active. I'm just saying hi. [[User:Stripes|Stripes]] ([[User talk:Stripes|talk]]) 20:13, 27 July 2012 (MSD)<br />
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: Hello, are you also active, or previously active, on the wikipedia... Would I know you there... <br />
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::You would not have known me there as far as I know. <br />
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::Read your e-mail. [[User:Stripes|Stripes]] ([[User talk:Stripes|talk]]) 21:10, 27 July 2012 (MSD)<br />
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== Hicks ==<br />
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I noticed in the recent changes log something about David hicks, I recall seeing an entry at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Innocent_prisoner%27s_dilemma on en.wiki] which says that the prisoners there are caught in an [[innocent prisoner's dilemma]] which is a concept most people have no clue about, so I wrote it on en.wikipedia and I've copied it here. I thought you may wish to know, or tell whoever may wish to know. [[User:Penyulap|Penyulap]] ([[User talk:Penyulap|talk]]) 11:13, 3 August 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==AlphaOne==<br />
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I started out in Wikipedia writting list about characters that were in public domain. I noticed that some of the articles had missing characters. I tried to fill in the missing characters but the information I wrote got deleted. So now I'm here and hopefully I won't run into the same problems again. 04:02 pm, June 25th 2014.<br />
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== You didn't ==<br />
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You didn't answer my questions at [[User talk:LuisAnton|my talk page]]. {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 01:31, 26 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:You did not say bad words. It is not good to say it. Good. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 03:15, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=WikiAlpha:Community_portal/Archive_1&diff=188920WikiAlpha:Community portal/Archive 12017-07-03T03:14:25Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>Hi, I've just had an Email notifying me that an article I created on EN wiki has been migrated here, except it hasn't. I frequently move poorly named new articles and I wonder if that has lead to your migration bot being confused? As you haven't got the relevant history I can't see what happened in that case, but am pretty sure that would be the case. [[User:WereSpielChequers|WereSpielChequers]] 01:47, 3 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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Hi. Thanks, yes that page was one of the first we did, and it appears to have been accidentally removed during testing. Sorry about that.<br />
--[[User:Richard|Richard]] 02:14, 3 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Copyright/License terms ==<br />
At the head of pages copied from Wikipedia you properly refer to CC-BY-SA, but at the foot of the pages and on the main page it still says "Content is available under Public Domain". That is misleading and untrue - at most it should say something like "Content is available under Public Domain ''unless otherwise stated at the head of the page''." [[Special:Contributions/79.69.225.150|79.69.225.150]] [[User talk:79.69.225.150|(talk)]] 15:36, 10 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:Yes, we will update the template to be more explicit. [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 16:26, 10 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:::This needs to be done at<br />
*[[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]]<br />
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*[[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2]]<br />
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All the best,<br />
[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]]) 07:37, 5 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:Thanks for the pointer, Rich. I've [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=User_talk:Govind&curid=3&diff=9273&oldid=9016 asked Govind] if this can be updated. Best regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 08:13, 5 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
Also adding [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] to the list. Thanks. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 12:18, 7 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
::{{tl|Wp-cca}} already states that it is "'''contrary''' to the public domain logo at the foot of the page.". I don't know that MediaWiki allows you to selectively change the copyright message on some articles. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 04:13, 9 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::Thanks for stopping by, Govind, I appreciate the help. Some people I spoke to were reluctant to help because of the issue. I though it wouldn't hurt to ask if the message could be changed. Would you be opposed to changing [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] from <code>Content is available under Public Domain.</code> to this <code>Content is available under Public Domain unless otherwise noted.</code> or something similar? Thanks. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 13:49, 9 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==Status==<br />
I was wondering about the status of this site. It seems that [[Special:Contributions/Richard|Richard hasn't edited in a couple weeks]] and [[Special:Contributions/HistoryBot|HistoryBot is only running sporadically]]. I was hoping this place would be running full steam by now. Could somebody provide a status of the site operations? Thanks. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 06:33, 24 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:Hi Web, we've been a little busy the last couple of weeks but we've both been monitoring the site and the situation with wikipedia. I need to make some adjustments to HistoryBot, but it will be back up and running soon. Thanks for your contributions by the way. Cheers [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 09:04, 24 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Thanks for the update, Richard. Thanks also to you and Govind for setting up the site and everything. It's very kind of you to provide a safe haven for disenfranchised Wikipedians. Thanks. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 01:03, 25 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:::Hey guys, quick update: We're on a new server located in Germany. It's an SSD server so the wiki should be nice and fast. Govind was supposed to be working on the public backup system (i.e. in the spirit of public domain, we want to share our backups), but I haven't heard anything for a while. Will check up on it. Other than that, traffic growth has been positive. Keep up the good work. Cheers [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]])<br />
::::Is this related to the problem I had uploading a picture? It worked after I uploaded it, but last night it disappeared, and it won't let me upload a replacement. http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/File:Snake-powerrat.jpg [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 02:39, 28 November 2012 (MSK)<br />
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==September11wiki?==<br />
See [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Please_help_build_911_Attack_memorial]. I just heard about this site, which dates back to a 2002 dispute at Wikipedia which began a trip down the wrong path... unfortunately, the site is closed, but maybe the operators could be contacted and recruited to your project? Just a thought. [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|talk]]) 22:30, 27 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:I think anything that adds to WikiAlpha would probably be benefitial. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 07:46, 29 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
::I was admin there. There and I ''think'' the Afar WP, which was also closed. Interestingly the September 11 wiki became more encyclopedic as time passed, and less of a memorial as such. There was no real problem with keeping it, but some folk just like tidying up for the sake of it. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
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==Time zone==<br />
The time zone for the server appears to be UTC, while the time zone on signatures appears to be "MSD" AKA [[Wikipedia:Moscow Time]] and [[Wikipedia:UTC+04:00]]. Why the discrepancy? &nbsp; — <font size="4">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff]] [[User:Jeff G./talk|G. ツ]]</font> 05:09, 3 August 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Using templates from Wikipedia? ==<br />
I'm going to be working on articles, but there are a number of templates I need first. I've been grabbing templates from Wikipedia for the new ones, but I was wondering if anybody would mind if I used Wikipedia's templates for existing ones, like {{tl|cite book}} and {{tl|cite news}}? I wanted to ask permission before I started doing this. Another one I was hoping to replace was {{tl|infobox}}, but I want to ask first because it will change the look of all infoboxes from the yellow/orange border to black like Wikipedia.<br /><br />
@Richard, Govind & Mathew, I wanted to get your OK on this before I did anything since this will change how the site looks. Thanks in advance for your input. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 07:20, 25 August 2011 (MSD)<br />
:That sounds good, but be warned, the cite templates on enwp take esoteric to a whole new level. :) &nbsp; — <font size="4">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff]] [[User:Jeff G./talk|G. ツ]]</font> 07:55, 23 October 2011 (MSD)<br />
:: Feel free, but as Jeff said above, they take some getting used to. :P [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 10:09, 23 October 2011 (MSD)<br />
:::Yes, the template stuff is way beyond my abilities, but I'm fortunate to be getting help from Wikipedia's premier template expert, [[User:Rich Farmbrough]], who has been generously helping. So I may make some headway on this. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 08:05, 5 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==On notability, and its hidden bias -- versus maintainability==<br />
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I looked at a couple of discussion pages here, recognized a lot of names of wikipedia contributors, was surprised to see so many people from there participating here. '''''Then''''' I realized it was a cut and paste of a discussion that occurred at wikipedia. Rather than reply on that page, to people unlikely to ever read my comment, I am going to comment here.<br />
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One of those discussions asked about notability.<br />
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I have had reservations about notability since the very first {{tl|afd}} I participated in, as, it seemed to me that often when a contributor called something "not notable" it was really a sign of their own, unconscious, hidden bias. To anyone who thinks my name is familiar from en.wiki I was the person who made the most effort to cover the Guantanamo captives and other topics related to what the Bush administration used to call the ''"[[global war on terror]]"''.<br />
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It routinely seemed to me that the claims of many of those who challenged the notability of the stories of these individual amounted to judgement calls the challengers were making about the credibility of the captives' claims. They didn't agree the captives' stories were notable because they didn't agree the captives' stories were credible.<br />
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When they didn't believe that any of the USA's captive had been innocent civilian bystanders, they didn't think articles about these individuals were merited, even when they had been tortured, or their detention was justified for tissue thin claims that they were owners of the same watch that Ahmed Ressam was going to use to bomb LAX on 1999-12-31.<br />
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The Citizendium, where I have also contributed articles, some newly written, some ported from wikipedia, tried to learn some lessons from the wikipedia. They have a cool system for attaching a cluster of files to each article, including a gallery for related images, and a "related articles" feature.<br />
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But the thing that first interested me about trying to volunteer there was they didn't have a notability policy or guideline -- instead they had a "maintainability" policy. Articles required reliable, authoritative, verifiable references, in order to be considered "maintainable". And, articles that seemed to have fallen out of date, where those who had worked on them were no longer active, or had lost interest, could also be deemed "unmaintainable". <br />
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I have been prolific at the wikipedia. I started a lot of articles, on controversial topics, and there are something like 100 articles I started there, that have been deleted, which I think could be perfectly suitable articles here, or on some other wiki. (Some of them I think were policy compliant there too.)<br />
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I want to learn more about the differences in liscensing here and there prior to committing to port those 100 or so articles here. I will start a seperate section on that.<br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:08, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:Hi Geo Swan. Thanks for your contributions. I believe [[User:Govind]] is the site operator and <s>pays for the hosting and other bills</s>. He can give you a definative answer. My understanding is that the only things that would be deleted here are copyright violations and BLP violations. I think everything else is safe from deletion. I know that ''notability'' doesn't apply and I don't think there's anything like ''maintainability''. Best regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 09:34, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<small>I was mistaken. Striking incorrect info. See below. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 14:33, 8 June 2012 (MSD)</small><br />
::See also [[WikiAlpha:CSD]]. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 12:27, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::Hi Geo Swan. Good to have you aboard. FYI: Govind is the head wiki administrator here, I mostly maintain the server and pay hosting costs. As to licensing: try to follow the law as best you can. To my knowledge Creative Commons licenses are very rarely enforced so I wouldn't be hyper concerned about it. We are public domain, so anything you write on this site is free for everyone to read, modify and reproduce forever more (it's not as scary as it sounds!) And as to inclusion requirements -- we are basically laissez faire. Nothing illegal or grossly offensive. Anything else is fine. [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 14:19, 8 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
::::Thanks Richard. I appreciate you funding the project here. It's very generous of you. Kind regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 14:36, 8 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==Liscensing -- I'd like to be fickle==<br />
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I'd like to be fickle. If I started an article, I'd like to be able to encapsulate my edits that started that article, and carry that encapsulation to any other wiki, and make it available there.<br />
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Fickle.<br />
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I know the wikipedia's interpretation of {{tl|gfdl}} and {{tl|cc-sa-3.0}} is that a contributor's right to have their contribution attributed to them is satisfied by a mere list of contributors. I am not aware of whether this was ever the subject of a discussion on the wikipedia. If it was that discussion probably occurred very early. I am not aware of anyone challenging that interpretation. While, I am not a lawyer, this interpretation seems questionable to me, on a purely legal level. Further, there are a couple of non-legal aspects of this interpretation that bug me.<br />
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It seems to me that if there was a court case where this interpretation of attribution was challenged, and a court ruled that a mere list of contributors was insufficient, all the wikipedia's mirror sites, and the wikipedia and its sibling projects, would all be out of compliance with the law. <br />
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When I have ported articles I started to other wikis, I take a look at the contribution history, and try to determine the edit which is the last which I can claim I was the sole author of intellectual content. And that is the version I port -- even if it was a couple of years out of date. In doing so I honor my interpretation of what kind of attribution is required. <br />
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In the wikipedia discussions that were copied here, that I referred to in my comment above, someone made the point that the original liscense the wikipedia contributors submitted their edits under when they submitted them there is not compatible with claiming that that material is in the public domain here.<br />
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I think they are right. I think that material is '''not''' in the public domain, that their original liscense required re-users to only use that material under the same liscense it was originally released under.<br />
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Sometime in 2005 someone ported a couple of maps I had uploaded to en.wiki to the wikimedia commons. My nose was put out, because I didn't understand that the gfdl I submitted it under explicitly allowed him or her to do that. Sometime between 2007 and 2009 I decided I would relax the liscensing on all my images, and put them all in the public domain. <br />
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Some famous guy said an egoless person could quietly get a lot more accomplished -- if they were prepared to forgo taking credit for those accomplishments -- under that theory I am think I could be convinced to put my own personal contributions in the public domain -- but I can't make that commitment for other people who contributed to the wikipedia version of an article. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:51, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:I've left [[User:Govind]] a note about the [[#Copyright/License terms]] discussion above. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 09:41, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:See [[Mycroft Holmes]]. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
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===I think I was the sole author of the intellectual content of this article===<br />
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I ported an article before AFD here. After reviewing [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mustaq_Aksari&action=history its contribution history] at wikipedia I thought I could assert [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=Deleted_talk:Mustaq_Aksari&oldid=9413 I was the sole author of the intellectual content] of [[Mustaq Aksari]]. I moved it to article space, and removed the tag about attributing it to wikipedia, as, although other people edited the article, they only edited its meta data, and left the intellectual content untouched.<br />
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I`d appreciate another set of eyes looking at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mustaq_Aksari&action=history the contribution history]<br />
and confirming or disputing my interpretation. <br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 23:49, 7 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:<s>You certainly created the majority of the content. Most everything else was tags, CATs, persondata and such. But [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mustaq_Aksari&diff=398647191&oldid=326841028 this edit] could be considered an addition worthy of attribution. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 14:20, 8 June 2012 (MSD)</s><br />
:<small>strike previous comment above</small> In re-reading your comments above, I believe you would like to release certain articles to the public domain. I would say '''Yes you can''', there are no substantial additions to this article that would prevent that. I would just add that, per Moonriddengirl's comment [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Moonriddengirl&diff=prev&oldid=440108929 here], that WikiAlpha <small>(i.e. you, me & everybody)</small> does a very good job attributing while the majority of other sites do not. So I think you're doing fine and the talk page already includes attributions. Best regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 16:58, 8 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==Who is entitled to attribution?==<br />
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I recently sought input at one of wikipedia's village pumps over who is entitled to count on the attribution described in {{tl|gfdl}} and {{tl|cc-sa-3.0}}. I think only contributors whose edits contained "intellectual content" are entitled to attribution. <br />
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I think there are various kinds of edits that are valuable, but don't entitle a contributor to attribution. I think edits that correct spelling, grammar or punctuation are not entitled to attribution. I think edits that add categories, or other meta information, do not require attribution. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:51, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:This is actually very interesting question. Dewey have IPRs in a system of organizing knowledge, in the same way the WP community could claim at least communal IPRs on the WP category system, though many individual parts would not be protectable by themselves. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
:@Geo Swan, I've never really thought about it myself. I don't really have an opinion at the moment, but some people may view attribution as a courtesy for their volunteering. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 09:46, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:* There is no question that those who make edits that don't add or significantly amend the intellectual property in an article may still have made a very valuable contribution. <br />
::Copyediting is valuable. Wikitags, and other organizational metatags don't add intellectual content, but are still valuable.<br />
::Adding or fixing references don't add intellectual content, but are very useful<br />
::When edits are valuable the contributor should get their share of wikilove, barnstars, and plain old straight forward expressions of appreciation. But since attribution is a legal requirement, I think we should stick to the other ways of showing appreciation, and not also use attribution as a way of showing appreciation. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 00:36, 7 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::You're probably right. I haven't thought much about the legal aspects. For me, the most important part of these wiki-type projects is making the information itself available so that people can find it, read it and benefit from it. Before Wikipedia, a lot of very helpful information was not easily accessable. Today there are a lot of Wikis and the net has become a valuable resource for finding details on many important subjects. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 17:30, 8 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==Where should bug reports be made?==<br />
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Where should bug reports be made? Here on this page? Briefly, I tried porting an article from the wikipedia. I encountered two bugs.<br />
# The port of the cite templated doesn't properly understand the "archiveurl =" field. That is OK with me. I prefer to put the url to the archived version ''after'' the {{tl|cite}} template.<br />
# I encountered a problem when I tried using html comments to hide templates that weren't supported here from the render engine. The render engine seemed to ignore those html comments. This seemed so odd to me it occurred to me that this might be a problem with the caching of the previously saved version.<br />
I assume we are all volunteers here. I know I can't count on having these bugs, if they are bugs, addressed promptly -- or even at all. I record them here just for completeness.<br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 04:18, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:I'm not sure where bug reports should go, but this seems like as good a place as any. I should probably mention that [[User:Richard]] was the other person maintaining this site, but looking at [[Special:Contributions/Richard|his contribs]], it appears he's not active any more. So it may be that Govind has his hands full keeping things running, but that's just a guess. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 10:02, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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'''Solution to #2 above''' The reason the HTML comment didn't work is because of a comment inside a comment.<br />
<pre><nowiki><br />
<!--<br />
{{Infobox WoT detainees<br />
| name = Mohammed Ahmed<br />
| image =<br />
| image_size =<br />
| caption =<br />
| date_of_birth = {{Birth year and age|1996}}<br />
| place_of_birth = [[USA]]<br />
| date_of_arrest = 2003-03<br />
| place_of_arrest = Pakistan<br />
| arresting_authority = US and Pakistani security officials<br />
| date_of_release = 2008<br />
| place_of_release = Afghanistan<br />
| date_of_death = <!-- {{Death-date and age| death date | birth date }} --><br />
| place_of_death =<br />
| citizenship = [[USA]]<br />
| detained_at = CIA [[black sites]]<br />
| id_number =<br />
| group =<br />
| alias = Ahmed Siddiqui<br />
| charge = no charge, held in [[extrajudicial detention]]<br />
| penalty =<br />
| status = returned to his maternal family<br />
| csrt_summary =<br />
| csrt_transcript =<br />
| occupation =<br />
| spouse = <br />
| parents = [[Aafia Siddiqui]]<br />
| children =<br />
}}<br />
--><br />
</nowiki></pre><br />
In this instance, there is a second comment in this template. The ''date_of_death'' parameter has {{tl|Death-date and age}} commented out and is the second comment. If you remove the <code><nowiki><!-- </nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki> --></nowiki></code> from that part, then your comment around the template will work. Best regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 16:26, 8 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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* Ah. Pilot error. Thanks! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 18:05, 8 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==API==<br />
having trouble accessing the API. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
:API as in http://en.wikialpha.org/w/api.php like Wikipedia's http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php ? I don't have any experience in this area. Perhaps [[User:Govind]] could help, but it's quite possible that you are the most experienced person here, Rich. Maybe Govind could give you access to the database and other stuff. Just a thought. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 09:56, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
::Adding [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page mediawiki:API:Main page] for my reference. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 10:19, 6 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::The endpoint as listed on that page is what I'm looking for. It's not present in the HTML page source. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
*'''Found it''' -- http://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/api.php Google to the rescue. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 10:09, 7 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
: Tried a [http://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/api.php?action=query&generator=allpages&gapprefix=API/&prop=revisions query] and it seems to work. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 10:16, 7 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
::Excellent! I'll get to work. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
:::(Strangely, though, http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=general|namespaces|namespacealiases|statistics works fine it may be that there is more to this than meets the eye.) [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]]) 19:20, 7 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
::::I'm getting JSON errors, now, which is interesting because I wasn't aware the perl module used JSON. But annoying too. [[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich Farmbrough]] ([[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|talk]])<br />
:::::I spent several hours digging around, but haven't made any progress. I've been reading through http://svn.mediawiki.org/doc/tree.html and http://svn.mediawiki.org/doc/files.html, which was interesting but not too helpful. I would guess that Govind has a non-standard installation, but I could easily be wrong. Could you let me know a specific error message? Thanks. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 14:10, 8 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
::::::We have some URL rewriting going on that makes the URLs friendlier. That may be upsetting your API access. I've added a rule to prevent it messing with the api.php script. Let me know if that helps. [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 14:32, 8 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::::::Thank you. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 14:37, 8 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==Explicitly thanking Richard, and seeking clarification of this project's scope==<br />
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First, [[User:Richard]], let me explicitly thank you for paying the bills here. <br />
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I am going to mention three recent threads at:<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)&diff=496704158&oldid=496663386#When_should_administrators_decline_to_email_the_source_text_to_deleted_material.3F Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#When should administrators decline to email the source text to deleted material?]<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29&diff=496704158&oldid=496663386#Copyright_and_cite_templates.2C_spelling_and_punctuation_corrections Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Copyright and cite templates, spelling and punctuation corrections]<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29&diff=496704158&oldid=496663386#transmittal_by_email_and_the_meaning_of_publishing Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#transmittal by email and the meaning of publishing]<br />
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If you read the last two threads you will see some straw arguments advanced by a non-administrator named [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing User:Whatamidoing], who quite agressively chewed me out for (1) claiming I could demand an administrator email me deleted content on request; (2) failing to keep a copy of every article I started that might someday be deleted.<br />
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Of course I never made the demands she claimed I was making. Grrr.<br />
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WRT her second admonition, I think she was claiming I should have copied that material to my hard drive. But another option would be to republish articles I start that I think might face deletion on a second wiki. <br />
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Is a parallel copy of articles I start in the future, that I think might face deletion, going to be welcome here?<br />
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What about [http://toolserver.org/~tparis/pages/index.php?name=Geo+Swan&namespace=0&redirects=noredirects&getall=1 the articles I already started?] Over my 8 years at the wikipedia I have been prolific. I started well over 2000 articles. Anything I port here, where I think I can claim I was the sole author of the intellectual content, I will place in the public domain.<br />
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In addition to those listed in the link above there is another five to ten percent of the articles I started that have been deleted. Some of them were deleted for bullshit reasons. There are half a dozen hostile wiki-ids who show up when articles I have started have been nominated for deletion, don't actually read or participate in the discussion, and leave a boilerplate "delete" vote. <br />
Can I look forward to adding those 100 to 200 articles put into article space here, if I can get access to their source text?<br />
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Thanks again! Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 10:01, 9 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:Certainly your articles are welcome! Original articles are prefered, but feel free to back up your existing articles too. Incidently, this is the very thing WikiAlpha was originally intended as: A refuge for exiled articles, and an [[Open_content|open encyclopedia]]. [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 15:13, 9 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
::I too would like to publically thank Richard for funding this project. I'd also like to thank Govind for all his work too. I folowed the WikiAlpha discussions over at Wikipedia and I was sad to see Richard and Govind repeatedly treated very poorly. It's very generous of both Richard and Govind to be providing us a safe haven to publish articles. Thanks guys. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 17:01, 9 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:@Geo Swan, Yes, the threads at the village pump didn't go very well. It's sad, but Wikipedia has become very WP:BITEy. <s>Regarding the deleted articles, I've had very good luck working with Wikipedia's copyright expert, [[wikipedia:User:Moonriddengirl]], on getting deleted articles. She's been very generous providing deleted articles to people, so you may want to contact her. She has [[User:Moonriddengirl|an account here]] and helped with attributions for several deleted articles she provided to this website. You might let her know about the [[Special:SaveArticle]] feature here since it would make it easier for her. Best regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 17:33, 9 June 2012 (MSD)</s><br />
:<small>strike previous</small> @Geo Swan, if you give me a list of deleted articles you want, I will get them copied here. Kind regards. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 18:34, 9 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:* Thanks!<br />
:: Can we start with these --[[User:Geo Swan/a list of deleted articles]] -- or as many as are convenient in one single go? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 21:48, 9 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:::I [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=User_talk:Geo_Swan&diff=10106&oldid=9375 replied] at your talk page. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 15:50, 11 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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===How are we doing?===<br />
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Richard, since I started porting articles here about two hundred articles have entered the main article space. I think Matthew and I are responsible for the bulk of them. So, how are we doing? Do our efforts satisfy you?<br />
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I have contributed some brand new articles, and I am happy to explicitly put those in the public domain. Some of the articles I have ported, I have reverted to the last version where I could claim I was the sole author of the article's intellectual content -- sometimes because I liked that version better -- but sometimes so I could explicitly put the article in the public domain. <br />
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From January through May 2011 I made considerable contribution to the [http://complexoperations.org complex operations wiki]. It is a wiki that specializes in politico-military topics, where the bills are paid by Darpa. And I went in there remembering the other golden rule -- ie he or she who has the gold makes the rules. I figure that golden rule applies here, too.<br />
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I could port all, or most, of the articles I started on politico-military topics on the wikipedia to this wiki. That would be over 1000 articles. If I worked to make sure they were up to date, that would probably be at least half an hour each -- possibly hours. That could be years of my spare time.<br />
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So, Richard, can I ask a few questions about your plans for this wiki? <br />
# Are periodic backups made? If so, how often? If something unexpected happens, like (heaven forfend) if you have a financial reverse, can those of us who have contributed here get a copy?<br />
# As the size of the wiki increases, I figure the hosting costs will increase. I know that the hosting costs for the Citizendium are about $250 per month. Have you given thought as to whether to take on partners, or place advertizing? I only bring this up because my modest income would preclude chipping in.<br />
# Should I revert back to a version where I was the sole contributor, so a ported article can be placed in the public domain -- if it means leaving out new material written by others? <br />
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Thanks again for paying those bills! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 05:27, 16 August 2012 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi Geo,<br />
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:Thanks for your contributions! Yes you and Matt are doing well!<br />
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:Currently, backups should be being made automatically by the host on their backend. But I take your point about the size of the Wiki getting large enough to warrant proactive backups. So, pending Govind having time to set it up, I think we'll go WikiLeaks style and release periodic public backups.<br />
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:Re: Hosting costs. WikiAlpha is believe or not a commercial venture. We haven't added any advertising yet because it makes the site less appealing to new editors, when the site is still small and unappealing to begin with. We started this site as a 50-50 partnership between Govind and myself, with him doing as much technical work as is needed, and me paying the bills and doing anything he can't. At the moment costs are something like $20 per month, and no problem to pay. By this time next year I will be looking at putting some ads up.<br />
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:Re: Public domain legalities. It is up to you how you want to play it. To be honest I think public domain vs. creative commons is a storm in a tea cup. No one has ever sued anyone (to my knowledge) over reprinting or editing of text entered into a public wiki.<br />
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:Hope that helps! Govind will reply here when he's read this and thought about the backup situtation. Cheers, [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 17:56, 16 August 2012 (MSD)<br />
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::The only case I can remember of someone using a wiki text for a commercial venture is when IDW published a comic book (All Hail Megatron #15) that the cover had a page from a wiki on it. They sold the comic book for money, and no one seemed to care much, although lots of people worried it would TECHNICALLY make the whole comic book creative commons. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 21:54, 16 August 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==fair use images?==<br />
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When I have ported articles with PD or free images I have uploaded those here. When I have ported articles with fair use images I haven't uploaded those image. Should I?<br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 10:17, 11 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
:I believe Richard allows fair-use images on this site per [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=User_talk:Richard&diff=793&oldid=790 his discussion here]. There is a template for fair-use images at {{tl|Image-fairuse}} that can be used in the form of <code><nowiki>{{image-fairuse|source|explaination}}</nowiki></code> but I've never used it before so it may be slightly different than that. 16:02, 11 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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::Thanks!<br />
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::Here is my first use of fair use [[:File:Elbe eisbrechers -a.jpg]]. I wrote there that I figured this use might be challenged on the wikipedia, but I thought "fair use" was an area where the WMF tries to be "more catholic than the pope..."<br />
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::I have no ego attachment to this image, and won't be upset if others disagree.<br />
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::Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 20:28, 16 June 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==Robot plague==<br />
I don't know if anything can be done about it, but if someone could suggest anything, we really have a severe problem with a robot registering random names. We have over 50 robot users today. Whatever security we have to for registraton seems to be failing. I see there is a system were is asks you to do some math problem to avoid robots. Someone cracked that one. Can we even just change the formatting a little to confuse the bot? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 02:38, 7 July 2012 (MSD)<br />
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:Hello Matthew, there is a similar over-run on the wiki I use, there are a number of lines of attack, there is a spamlist which stops them saving pages, I was thinking to leave mine invite only, so people can't login without sending an email to a disposable email address, I was also thinking to ask about and see if we can get a bot, maybe an IRC bot which notifies of new signups or signup requests by a beeping sound on your computer. That way, any human identified would simply use the board as per usual, and bots would be instantly terminated because you would know that one just came online. It would only work of course if you are awake, the rest of the time they would just overrun the place as usual. I can't help but think that helping each other there would work as well, as a few users could share the load. I could certainly use the help. Otherwise I guess locking and unlocking the board when awakening and going to sleep going from 'please just make yourself at home' to 'please send me an email' would be the way. <br />
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:Many solutions, just a matter of finding what we can manage. [[User:Penyulap|Penyulap]] ([[User talk:Penyulap|talk]]) 09:53, 3 August 2012 (MSD)<br />
:: We have added an extra feature alongside the captcha system to help stem the mass-registration of bots. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 04:02, 6 August 2012 (MSD)<br />
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==Attributing to Wikipedia when the article name has changed or split==<br />
I'm not sure quite what to do about this, but I've run into several articles when I copy an article from Wikipedia that was about several fictional characters with a similar name, and once here I break it into several smaller articles. The original article name is now just a disambig page here on Wikialpha, pointing to several other articles, all of which have text from the original. We have a tag that allows you to say an article came from a Wikipedia article of the same name, but can we get one for when the name has changed? For instance, I want to say that [[Optimus Prime (Shattered Glass)]] came from a wikipedia article called "Optimus Prime"? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 00:39, 17 August 2012 (MSD)<br />
:{{tl|subst}} the {{tl|Wp-cca}} template and edit the text from there, like so: <nowiki>{{subst:wp-cca}}</nowiki>. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 06:42, 28 November 2012 (MSK)<br />
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==Returning to the wikipedia version bug==<br />
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The box with the disclaimer that advises readers the page has been copied from the wikipedia has a link that says it may point to the old wikipedia version. But that URL should have the ''"Deleted:"'' prefix stripped first.<br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:19, 25 August 2012 (MSD)<br />
:Ah, that should be a quick fix. I'll poke around now. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 05:39, 28 November 2012 (MSK)<br />
:Fixed :) [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 06:40, 28 November 2012 (MSK)<br />
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==Problem using the save article function==<br />
For some reason I couldn't save the article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_lion_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons) I'm wondering if maybe it's the "&" in the name messing things up? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 23:02, 9 September 2012 (MSD)<br />
:Hi Matt. I will have a look at this in a few hours. Sorry about the inconvenience.<br />
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== When should ampersands be escaped? ==<br />
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The save article function escapes some, or all, ampersands.<br />
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Sometimes old-fashioned escapes for special characters are embedded in our source text. <nowiki>&nbsp;</nowiki>, the non-breaking space, is one I use occasionally. <nowiki>&mdash;</nowiki> is one other contributors have used. The save article function translates <nowiki>&nbsp;</nowiki> to <nowiki>&amp;nbsp;</nowiki>. It translates <nowiki>&mdash;</nowiki> to <nowiki>&amp;mdash;</nowiki>. <br />
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When should ampersands be escaped? I am not sure, but some of the ampersand translation that the save article function does automatically has to be manually undone.<br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 20:40, 11 October 2012 (MSD)<br />
:This is all Govind's stuff to work out. (He's the WikiMedia expert. I do the hardware and hosting.) I'll go jump on his toes to come have a look. Cheers [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 05:01, 28 November 2012 (MSK)<br />
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::I'll add an exception for ampersands that are followed by a set of common HTML escape sequences to the save article script. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 05:27, 28 November 2012 (MSK)<br />
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==Upload problems==<br />
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I tried uploading an image today, and got the error message: '''The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver.''' [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 04:31, 28 November 2012 (MSK)<br />
:Hi guys, sorry about this. Should be fixed now. Here's a test image I just uploaded. [[File:wikialphatestimage.png|200px|thumb|left|testfile]] [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 04:48, 28 November 2012 (MSK)<br />
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==Save article feature not working?==<br />
Seems to be offline. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 16:51, 16 December 2012 (MSK)<br />
:Fixed. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 06:05, 17 December 2012 (MSK)<br />
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==Can we set up a deletion bot that follows the major deletionists?==<br />
Can we just have a bot that copies over any article for deletion done by this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Claritas [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 17:36, 16 December 2012 (MSK)<br />
:I might give this a shot in the near future. For now, you can always save them manually. Even if you're not going to work on them. [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 11:54, 17 December 2012 (MSK)<br />
::If you could make a list of major deletionists (make it an article even), then that would help me code a bot. Cheers [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 12:16, 17 December 2012 (MSK)<br />
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==Save article renaming articles==<br />
I was curious why articles saved from Wikipedia have the "Deleted" name added to them. As a function of how the system works, only articles that are NOT deleted can be copied from wikipedia to wikialpha with this tool. So it's never correct. Shouldn't it either save the article with the same name? Maybe we could have the option of choosing deleted, or picking the name of the created article? Also, are there any other online wiki encyclopedias out there besides Wikipedia top save articles from? Like deletionopedia? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 05:12, 21 December 2012 (MSK)<br />
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==Lag Issues==<br />
Hey guys, I noticed today the site was running very slowly. Memcached had fallen over on the server (maybe due to host reboot?) anyway I put it back up again and added a starter to rc.local and a watch script. Hopefully it won't happen again. If the site is having choppy performance for any extended period please email me at richard@wikialpha.org to let me know so I can fix it. Cheers [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 08:39, 5 January 2013 (MSK)<br />
:Thanks. I was going to ask about that. I have barely been able to use the site lately. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 15:08, 5 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
: I noticed too.<br />
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: I see you added a tiny ad. Over the years I have added the most persistent, annoying, or otherwise problematic sites to my router's blocked sites list. Doubleclick.com was the first. I have about 200 added now, and your ad is coming from one of those sites. Luckily for advertizers I think hardly anyone does this. I am reconsidering this, as some sites seem to go into endless loops trying to access those sites, and they can use up a huge fraction of my computer's resources.<br />
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: Anyhow, can I ask what the ad is?<br />
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: Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 04:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::Hey guys. Lag issue should be fixed again. Not sure what happened, but all the watchdog scripts were down. Will keep an eye on it. RE: Advertising. As previously stated we intend to put ads up on the site eventually (when we find an ad provider) with the hope that the site will pay for itself (shouldn't be too hard, doesn't cost much to run.) Feel free to adblock or nullroute these if you don't like seeing them. We aren't intending to put up lots of ads, just a modest adbox somewhere in the main template. And GeoSwan if everyone blocked ads then the web would probably transition to a pay to use model :) That said free-riders haven't been a problem for us yet, and -- even if they were -- you guys aren't free riders (you're editors) so feel free to block. Cheers [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 13:45, 11 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::* I am not averse to ads, in and of themselves. I;ll look at reasonably relevant ads. My concern is sneaky or broken ad-sites. Lots of modern ads use scripts, in script programming languages, rather than plain old html, and their scripts either contain endless loops, take an incredibly long time to load, causing the whole tab to be blocked -- or they sneakily stay active, doing something (what?) that causes them to keep reporting back to HQ. These are the ones I block. <br />
::::Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 15:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
Seems to have lag issues again the last few days. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 20:06, 6 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* I experienced this also. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 17:00, 8 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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The fixes seem to only last a day then the lag comes back. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 00:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Still not sure exactly what's going on with the memcached situation. It has been fine for months then suddenly its playing up? Keeping an eye on it.[[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 15:20, 16 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I think there is a bug in memcached or something that's changed on the site has caused it to bug out and absorb all the server's cpu time once a day. I've resorted t running it on a script whereby it's restarted every 10 minutes or so. It's not a great solution but it should fix the lag issues until we figure out properly what is going wrong. [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 03:38, 23 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Material that stirred controversy==<br />
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I [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Talk:Google_Watch#Version_as_of_3rd_AFD ported] a version of the deleted [[Google Watch]]. There were multiple acrimonious afd, a drv, and other discussions. I tried to figure out what the exact problem was. Someone told me that the article, and related articles, weren't actually policy problems, but that people complaining about them were such squeaky wheels that those articles were deleted anyway. I have no personal knowledge of that. <br />
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Is it possible those people may come to complain here too? I don't know, but since it was a possibility,I thought I would leave a heads-up here.<br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 00:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Honestly, the server is hosted in Germany and the site is owned in partnership between an Australian and a Canadian. Free speech and journalism are also international protected human rights. Any legal complaints coming our way are probably nothing to worry about. Any other sort of complaint is just bytes of text as far as I am concerned. So no problems as far as I can see. Carry on :) [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 03:43, 23 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:: Canadian? Me too. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 03:18, 24 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==PDF and TXT files?==<br />
Is there a way to upload small PDF and TXT documents to Wikialpha? I have some people who want to post their custom made RPG characters here. I don't see any way to upload anything besides images like JPGs and PNGs. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]])<br />
:I'll ask Govind to have a look. [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 04:17, 23 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I've been playing around with posting RPG character sheets, and if they are simply TXT files, I think I can insert them into a page by using the PRE tag, like here: [[Captain America for Hero System]]. Not sure if we can get wikialpha to save a PDF or other format file, but it might be nice. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 14:47, 24 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Additional - I have gotten two guys from a RPG web site to join here, but I guess they need to get confirmation emails to edit? Can anyone get those out please? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 02:41, 25 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Sorry about the delay in getting to this; I've been really busy with midterms lately. PDF and TXT uploads are now supported. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 06:17, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
Thanks, how? Just load them like an image? I tried and I got some files uploaded, but then I'm not sure how to display the. Can we support alt text or maybe a thumbnail image inline with an article? Here is what I have so far [[Bumblebee (Generation 1)#Games]][[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 11:35, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:MediaWiki by default has no handler for PDF files other than the default file handler. What you could do is directly link to the uploaded file within the article, like <nowiki>[http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/6/6e/Bumblebee-g1-hero4.pdf]</nowiki>. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 06:28, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Save Article problem with wikipedia user pages==<br />
When an article gets deleted on wikipedia, you can request that it get used into your userspace, which I have done. Problem is when I go to use the save article function it says it cannot copy articles from userspace. Seems that this is going to happen a lot as I recover deleted artciles. Can anyone fix this? I'm not sure why it was prohibited in the first place. Thanks! [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 12:36, 23 March 2013 (UTC)\<br />
:It was prohibited because I didn't want to have non-article content being written into article space. I will revise this soon to make it so that the user namespace gets a new destination in Save Article, like, say, Deleted_userspace: or something similar. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 20:05, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Usenet announcements for saved artciles?==<br />
Since the usenet is pretty much unmoderated and filled with annoying bots, I was wondering if anyone wants to try to use it to help promote wikialpha. Maybe when an article is copied from wikipedia, we could have a bot post an announcement on a usenet group? Maybe make a box that has a space for it. If I save a Battletech related article, I could say the usenet group would be "alt.games.mecha", etc. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 15:41, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Added to my To-Do list. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 20:05, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Wikipeida new PDF exporter==<br />
I noticed that Wikipedia has added a new feature to generate PDF images of pages on demand. Is this the sort of featured that can be copied into Wikialpha's code? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 15:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
: That's not a trivial project by any means. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 03:35, 12 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::No problem then. If it was something that could be copied, that would be cool, but don't put a lot of work into it. There is one feature in it that might be useful to us. When it generates a page it also makes a quick list of the editors on the bottom of the page that just lists each editor once, in alphabetical order. Much simplier than out long lists of all edits on out copied pages from Wikipedia. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 13:40, 12 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==No confirmation emails==<br />
A friend of mine tried to join Wikialpha at my recommendation. They never got a confirmation email. I make a new account as mathewignash2, and I never got a confirmation email either. I click to request one, and nothing arrives. Can anyone fix this? Might be why we are not getting new users. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 13:42, 12 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I believe I have removed email confirmation on registration and editing. Let me know if there are still any issues. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 00:36, 19 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Classic skin errors==<br />
The Classic skin setting makes the pages error out. Be careful. If you set it to Classic you can no longer view or edit pages, including the page that lets you change your skin. I was locked out all morning until I tricked it into displaying the preferences page in an example of another skin, so I could view it! [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 13:44, 12 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:BTW - Cologne Blue & Nostalgia also do not work. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 13:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Sorry for the late reply, but I fixed this a long time ago. [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 00:37, 19 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Wikialpha coverage==<br />
Minor coverage, but WikiAlpha was mentioned positively in a podcast I listen to recently, so I added mention of that to the page on [[WikiAlpha]]. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 01:21, 20 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Great :) [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 09:43, 28 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I also know an upcoming book on toy collecting will mention WikiAlpha. I will add that when the book comes out. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 11:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::That would be awesome. :) [[User:Govind|Govind]] ([[User talk:Govind|talk]]) 00:54, 31 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==requesting opinions on [[Leanne Freeman]]==<br />
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I contributed an article here on [[Leanne Freeman]] -- Toronto's 42nd murder victim of 2011. Another contributor has blanked the article twice, [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=Leanne_Freeman&diff=54844&oldid=54112] [http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki?title=Leanne_Freeman&diff=54920&oldid=54859] disputing that Ms Freeman had been a sex trade worker. The article doesn't actually say she was a sex trade worker. It says the police identified her as a sex trade worker. Enough articles explicitly quote the police saying she was a sex trade worker, that, if the article was on the wikipedia, and if she was still alive, those articles would satisfy the wikipedia's BLP policy.<br />
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I'd appreciate more eyes on this. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 05:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==MP3 file instead of wav?==<br />
I see that you can upload .wav files to WIkialpha, but not MP3. Wouldn't MP3 save more space? If you can add support for it I'd use it for my voice recordings.[[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 20:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Articles with many contributions==<br />
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I noticed that the save article bot didn't import the revision history of the [[black site]] article. It had over 1000 revisions. Maybe the bot couldn't handle that many?<br />
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I wrote a small trivial python script, below, where one can paste the raw contribution history in the "rawinput" string, and it will output a wikiready list. I put this trivial script in the public domain. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 18:59, 16 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== {{tl|Wp-cca}} for articles that don't require disambiguation here ==<br />
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{{tl|Wp-cca}} assumes that the prior history for an article ported from the wikipedia will have the same name as the article here. I realized today that this isn't always true. An article on [[John Smith (astronomer)]] requires disambiguation on the wikipeda, but could be plain [[John Smith]] here.<br />
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There have been other occasions where the version ported here hasn't had the exact same name as the original wikipedia version. Allowing an optional parameter, to specify the name of the article, at the wikipedia, would be useful, when the two articles have different names.<br />
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Just a thought. Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 18:21, 24 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I just go ahead and add the disambig anyways on the title of the article here, since there could eventually be articles here for the other uses of the word. I do, however, sometimes have a disambig here that is not on Wikipedia, since sometimes there is only one article on Wikipedia because all other uses of a word have been deleted, but here on WikiAlpha there are multiple articles, so in those cases a Wp-cca that can point to another article name on Wikipedia might be helpful. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 02:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:: Okay, but what if there are other reasons why an article should have a different name here than it has on the wikipedia? For example, consider the article I started on [[Shona Holmes]]. Holmes is a notable person. She lied about the Canadian health care system. Some members of the public found her lies were so disturbing she started to receive death threats. She claimed her life was at risk due to a "brain tumor". What she had was a congenital condition called a Rathke's Cleft Cyst, a very common misstep from the 6th week of fetal development. It was not a brain tumor.<br />
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:: Anyhow, to comply with one of the goofier aspects of [[WP:BLP]], her article was renamed [[Shona Holmes health care incident]]. The article wasn't changed, just its title -- but somehow this made it policy compliant. Crazy. It is a crazy policy. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 15:43, 1 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I would guess that they say the person wasn't notable, but the incident was notable, and probably the article should be rewritten about the incident. Anyways, call the article what you want here. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 00:25, 2 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:::: Yes, some did say that -- ignoring that Holmes is at least a 2 incident individual. In addition to the deceitful ad she did for US medical insurance companies, she also launched a lawsuit against Ontario's government single-payer system, OHIP, claiming she should be re-imbursed for the $100,000 USD she paid her US medical team -- even though the excised her cyst when the standard practice is simply to pierce these cysts and let them drain. The lawsuit came first, and IMO, it was enough to establish notability all on its own, because, when the ruling comes down, its implications will be massive. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 16:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::They made a judgement call based on Wikipedia (often inconsistent) standards. Feel free to write the article how you see fit here. Since we don't require that someone be notable anyways, the argument as to whether the person or incident is notable is pointless. Have BOTH articles if you want. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 21:59, 2 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==The ''save article'' button isn't working anymore...==<br />
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The ''save article'' button isn't working anymore, at least not for me. I first noticed this a week or two ago. No error message, just a blank screen. <br />
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Could this be due to a change at wikipedia? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 07:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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: It's working now. Thanks! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 14:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Page view stats?==<br />
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I started an article on [[Bubble bump football]]. There is no coverage of this newly popular game at the wikipedia. I am curious as to whether this article will draw new readers to wikialpha? <br />
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At the wikipedia there is a tool that tells how many page view an article gets. There is nothing like that, here, correct?<br />
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Cheers! [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 14:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Isn't that listed at the bottom of each page? It says the page has been viewed 84 times. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 01:36, 2 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==UserName==<br />
Could I get my UserName changed to OptimusPrimon? Sorry if this is the wrong spot for this.[[User:OptimusMagnus|OptimusMagnus]] ([[User talk:OptimusMagnus|talk]]) 03:36, 4 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==SPA blanked a page==<br />
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The article on [[Trent A. Aistrope]] was recently [https://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Trent_A._Aistrope&diff=prev&oldid=183499 blanked] by a contributor named [[User:Jaistrope803]], with just a single edit. Is Jaistrope803 related to Trent Aistrope? It's likely.<br />
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The Trent Aistrope article mainly talks about his crime. Yes, embarrassing for him, and his relatives. Is that a reason to blank the article, when there is no real doubt as to his conviction, and he offered no alibi to suggest he was wrongfully convicted?<br />
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I reverted the blanking. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 15:31, 10 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==SVGs==<br />
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Can WikiAlpha's <code>LocalSettings.php</code> be edited to allow .svg files to be uploaded? There are many SVGs from Wikipedia that I can't upload here. {{User:LuisAnton/sig}} 06:21, 8 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it for asking questions? Just like the talk page? It is not to ask questions. I will ask an administrator to protect the community portal. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 03:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Lewinsky_(neologism)&diff=188919Talk:Lewinsky (neologism)2017-07-03T03:12:54Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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I created this article on Wikipedia, but it appears that they are soon to delete it due to some ill-defined internecine dispute. I have copied the original version that I created. Below are some references that I did not use. They may be useful if someone decides to expand the article. [[User:Kiwi Bomb|Kiwi Bomb]] 18:59, 9 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:It looks like a user added some spam links. I will ask an administrator to block him indefinitely. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 03:12, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Lewinsky_(neologism)&diff=188918Talk:Lewinsky (neologism)2017-07-03T03:12:05Z<p>CityOfSilver: Replaced content with "==Provenance== I created this article on Wikipedia, but it appears that they are soon to delete it due to some ill-defined internecine dispute. I have copied the original..."</p>
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<div>==Provenance==<br />
I created this article on Wikipedia, but it appears that they are soon to delete it due to some ill-defined internecine dispute. I have copied the original version that I created. Below are some references that I did not use. They may be useful if someone decides to expand the article. [[User:Kiwi Bomb|Kiwi Bomb]] 18:59, 9 July 2011 (MSD)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=WikiAlpha_talk:Attribution&diff=188917WikiAlpha talk:Attribution2017-07-03T03:11:28Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>==Suggestion for simplicity==<br />
You may copy Wikipedia articles here, providing the license and satisfying it as to attribution by providing links to Wikipedia, to the article. Unless Wikipedia wants to cooperate with you to provide complete articles with history, a separate matter (and introducing complications because of possible user name conflict), your articles here are fine.<br />
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If Wikipedia later deletes the article, the article history becomes unreadable for ordinary mortals, but can generally be recovered if needed. If you want to, you could do a dump of the original article history when you copy it and save that to the Talk page. It could be reduced to your Talk page history.... (i.e., it doesn't have to be visible, but would be possibly linked from the remaining talk page as an old revision.)<br />
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Another possible trick would be to dump the page history to the page itself, first, then replace it with the content being deleted on WP.<br />
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Whatever you do, it has to be easy, mostly automated, or it will get old, fast. Requesting that admins on Wikipedia provide page histories is way too much. You are, my opinion, legally covered by providing the link to the original when you copy the page, you aren't obligated to then stand on your head just because Wikipedia fails to keep that information available. At the worst case, someone will complain about a license violation, but that's not likely to be a big problem.<br />
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I think the idea of simply dumping the entire page history to the article itself, edit summaries and all, is best, before replacing it with the article -- or with, perhaps, later, if people want to do the work, with various versions -- is simple, just involves presumably automated scraping, and gives you the whole history, just not the individual content edits. If this is open, instead of buried in history as I've suggested, something else will become possible that isn't possible now, searching for contributions to deleted pages. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 05:13, 22 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:What is attribution? You can see it on Wikipedia, too. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 03:11, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Moonriddengirl&diff=188916User talk:Moonriddengirl2017-07-03T03:10:48Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>My apologies, you have been most helpful. Just annoyed at the other Wikipedia admins and high ranking people who give the site nothing but negative attention. Particularly the comment by Trac, that we are a "little hole in the wall". [[User:Richard|Richard]] ([[User talk:Richard|talk]]) 22:43, 9 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:Thank you; I appreciate that. I was hoping to be helpful, and I must admit that I felt a bit dismayed to think it was overlooked. :) I do understand why you would be annoyed, though, by comments such as that one. I don't really understand the response you received in that thread; it seems over the top to me. :/ --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] ([[User talk:Moonriddengirl|talk]]) 23:19, 9 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Attribution essay ==<br />
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I started an essay [[WikiAlpha:Attribution]] to discuss some of the attribution issues currently being raised. I'd like to get more eyes on it since I might always be wrong... [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|talk]]) 18:55, 19 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I am not allowing people to add spam links because that looks like I saw some spam and can remove them. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 03:10, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Wnt&diff=188915User talk:Wnt2017-07-03T03:09:58Z<p>CityOfSilver: </p>
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<div>==Licensing==<br />
I went ahead and added that tag to all the articles I could find that I copied from my deleted pages that were once on Wikipedia. Of course the majority of those articles don't exist there any more, so the Wikipedia links may not help much for attribution, but that's their problem for deleting them, not mine. One funny one is the article [[Antagony]]. It was an article about a comic book villain that Wikipedia deleted. Then they put up an article about a band with the same name since my article was deleted, so if you go to Wikipedia the article you see has nothing to do with a comic book villain. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 06:36, 20 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Just wanted to leave a quick thank you note. I have appreciated all you work over at Wikipedia. But I really need to thank you for your comments and insight at [http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:March_2011_Update strategy:Talk:March 2011 Update] and [http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:May_2011_Update strategy:Talk:May 2011 Update]. I felt your input was very thoughtful and to the point. You had a lot of good observations and your ideas made a lot of sense, so I wanted to thank you for taking the time to provide your input. It was very much appreciated by me and I expect by many others as well. Thanks for everything. [[User:Web|Web]] ([[User talk:Web|talk]]) 07:10, 20 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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==WikiAlpha:Attribution==<br />
Hi. :) I corrected one point about Wikipedia's licensing situation. We don't use CC-By-SA entirely; we co-license content. GFDL is still a valid license for the vast majority of Wikipedia's content. That said, some content on Wikipedia ''is'' licensed under CC-By-SA solely, so it's still a valid focus.<br />
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Otherwise, I will not be able to involve myself in the essay because I disagree strongly with your conclusion that a link to a deleted article is sufficient attribution. I can't endorse that view. :) Contributors to Wikimedia projects designate three acceptable forms of attribution in accordance with Terms of Use. While the first form ''is'' a link, the link ceases to provide attribution when the article is deleted. So long as that is the case, the requirement of a list of authors (the third option) or a stable version of the article with a list of authors (option 2) holds sway, in my interpretation. (My opinion merely; I've never asked our attorneys about this one.)<br />
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That said, I do appreciate your pointing out that authors have the right to opt out. :) I think the essay is a fabulous idea; it's just that we have such a fundamental difference of interpretation that makes collaboration on it challenging. :/ --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] ([[User talk:Moonriddengirl|talk]]) 17:09, 20 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I think that we could present them as different perspectives, pro and anti or something, maybe use subsections. Not being a lawyer, I certainly can't guarantee I would be found right in a court - the point is, WikiAlpha should consider the issue and decide one way or another. I am very concerned, however, that if deleting a Wikipedia article retroactively turns the text based on it into a copyright violation, that Wikipedia would ''not'' be a free encyclopedia, at least not as 99.9% of people use it. That isn't a tolerable situation from either end of this. [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|talk]]) 18:25, 21 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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==Just ignore him==<br />
Everyone else does. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 22:07, 22 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
:Enforcement rarely works, but if you can get a troll to realize just how little attention he's really getting, well, the truth hurts. [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|talk]]) 22:28, 27 July 2011 (MSD)<br />
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::Do not add spam to external sites. That will look like I see spam, and I will remove them. Cheers. '''''[[User talk:CityOfSilver|<font color="#EDDA74" face="Bradley Hand ITC">City</font>]][[Special:Contribs/CityOfSilver|<font color="Green" face="Bradley Hand ITC">O</font><font color="Red" face="Bradley Hand ITC">f</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/CityOfSilver|<font color="#708090" face="Bradley Hand ITC">Silver</font>]]''''' 03:09, 3 July 2017 (UTC)</div>CityOfSilverhttp://en.wikialpha.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Robertsmith&diff=188914User talk:Robertsmith2017-07-03T03:08:58Z<p>CityOfSilver: Created page with "Why did you add spam links to external sites? And what are you doing? Are you an impersonator? ~~~~"</p>
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